Finally bought the Canon 100 mm Macro!

Hello again,

Here are a couple of shots of my Scolymia taken tonight, using an LED flashlight from the side of the tank pointing at 90 degrees. The lights were all out, just the moonlight LEDs were on

I'm pleased with the results!


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Regards,
 
Wow. I seriously need to know what settings (roughly) you set your camera to. I can take any other kind of shot EXCEPT ones of my tank. I fail. Help? :lol:

Really nice, keep it up.... oh, and I also have the canon 100mm lens, and I get nothing even close to that. I can't shoot fish tank pix. :lol:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13665988#post13665988 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by t5Nitro
Wow. I seriously need to know what settings (roughly) you set your camera to. I can take any other kind of shot EXCEPT ones of my tank. I fail. Help? :lol:

Really nice, keep it up.... oh, and I also have the canon 100mm lens, and I get nothing even close to that. I can't shoot fish tank pix. :lol:

Thanks t5Nitro! :) :)


I am still trying to figure out the optimal settings and conditions for good tank photography. Let me give you a few of the most useful pointers I think you'll need.

1) Set the right white balance.
I shoot under 20K Metal Halides most of the time. That makes everything look very blue. Setting a custom White Balance in my camera helps me get colors more accurately

2) Minimize water movement in tank
If you can, turn off any powerheads, closed loops, and anything else causing significant water movement. That will help you get better pictures even at slightly lower shutter speeds.

3) Make sure your lens is perpendicular to the tank.
Ensure your lens is pointing straight to the area of the aquarium you are going to take photos of. This is probably the single most important thing. It can be a little limiting in the options of where and how to shoot your photos, but any variations in the angle and which the camera is pointed at the glass/acrylic will result in refraction, giving your photos the dreaded cloudy/blurry edges.
In order to have clean crisp subjects you need to point the camera straight towards the section of the tank you'll be shooting.

One complication arises when you are using the flash. There is a sweet spot of how much you can angle your camera without refraction, but enough so that the flash doesn't show up in the glass (if you are using a built in flash, or even an external one). Its a matter of practice and is still a reason for an amazing photo to be totally worthless. Its one of those things that you always have to keep in mind.

4) Use a tripod and remote shutter if possible
Again, in an effort to minimize motion blurs in the photos try to take your photos using a tripod. I don't always use one, but I get better results when I do.
Also if you can, use a remote control (wired or wireless) to shoot the photos so that your button presses don't translate into camera shake. Also if you can make sure you stand still because even the slightest vibrations in the ground can translate into motion in the tank and in your photo.
If you don't have a remote, another alternative is to use the timer, where the camera beeps for about 10 seconds before taking the photo. That will allow you to frame, focus, start timer and give you a chance to move away or stand still and let the camera do its magic. The down side of this technique is that you can't really 'capture a moment'. Its more for static shots of corals and things that don't move much

5) Use the right mode and settings
Depending on what lens you are using and what kind of shot you are looking for, make sure you set your camera in a mode that allows you full flexibility over the photo.
- Set your ISO as high as you comfortably can (depending on your camera model and features) before 'noise' is noticeable in your pictures.
- I prefer to work in my camera's Aperture Priority setting. I set the f stop I would like, and the camera returns the right exposure time for it. Its the mode I'm most comfortable with. When I take macro shots, I set the f stop to 2.8 or similar, resulting in stunning images with very shallow depth of field and pretty fast exposures.

As you start closing up the diaphragm your exposures will take longer, and if you must you can use a flash to compensate and add some light, but I try to bounce off the flash or use indirect flash in order not to 'wash out' the colors too much.

Taking photos of an aquarium with the camera set to full automatic is a crap shoot. You may get a good picture here and there, but it really is hard to determine how it will shoot, where it will focus and what parameters it will choose.

6) Master Post Processing
This one is one of my favorites, I enjoy it almost as much as taking photos. I am struggling with this a little bit, because I can get my images to look great on my MacBookPro LCD, but on PC monitors I see that my pictures are showing a little over saturated. In addition I have found that Photobucket (which is the site I use for storage of my photos) messes a little bit with the image after its uploaded. I'm not sure if its further compressed or what exactly happens, but I notice that my local versions look slightly different.

Its key for you to manage the levels, both RGB as well as each individual channel. Cropping is also fine, assuming that you have an image that's large enough and the focus is where you want it.

If you can, shoot your photos in RAW mode, which will allow you to set the exposure, white balance and fine tune the image after its shot, on the computer. It's really the best way to go.

If you can't shoot in RAW, use the highest setting on the camera and use software to edit and manage the images. You can still produce stunning results even without RAW photos, but you will need a program such as Adobe Photoshop or Elements, iPhoto or Aperture or anything that will allow you to manage the photos comprehensively.


A couple more pointers are:

- Try to clean the aquarium surface before your photo shoot
- Try to wear dark colors that won't be reflected or show up on the tank
- Try to turn off as many lights around the tank and minimize light sources that could get in the photo (glares, reflections)

Lastly, remember to have fun! The beauty of Digital Photography is that film is 'free' and 'reusable' - try different settings, play around with your camera, get to know the ins and outs and you'll start discovering what works best!

Let me know if I can provide any further insight.

Best,
 
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Here are 2 more acropora shots.

I took out part of the background behind the frags to make the corals 'pop out'. Not the best photos, but I like the look:

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Nice, I can't wait to get a macro, I agree both those hobbies are expensive. I am getting a macro for x-mas, and posted a thread of some corals I took on my rebel xti.

I am going to school for Marine Biology and photography:D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13722688#post13722688 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mackenzielark
Nice, I can't wait to get a macro, I agree both those hobbies are expensive. I am getting a macro for x-mas, and posted a thread of some corals I took on my rebel xti.

I am going to school for Marine Biology and photography:D

Thank you Mackenzie -

Wow - good for you. I would have liked to study Marine Biology... maybe some day :). I'm sure you'll love it, not to mention if you also get a photography degree as well. Great stuff!!

Great to hear you'll get a macro lens for Christmas - its a must for quality coral photos!

Regards,
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13748181#post13748181 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ccampo
Beautiful pictures... you captured all the beauty of those fantastic corals.

Cesar - thank you for your kind words.

Here are a couple more pictures. Not very happy with the colors, but I think Photobucket is to blame for color loss once uploaded. I will have to investigate another way to save/store images,

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Best,
 
I've used Photobucket for years without any color issues. Do you know which color space you are taking/editing/saving your pictures in? If you are using Adobe RGB the colors will look off when viewed on the internet.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13772046#post13772046 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Blazer88
I've used Photobucket for years without any color issues. Do you know which color space you are taking/editing/saving your pictures in? If you are using Adobe RGB the colors will look off when viewed on the internet.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13771745#post13771745 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by not_sponsored
Color does seem to be an issue, try flickr, I've had better results with them, can't ask for much though when it's free.


Thank you both for your comments...

Blazer... I was starting to think it may be because I'm not saving correctly ... I think I may have to save as sRGB with a color profile... can you expand on how you do this correctly?

Thanks in advance!
 
Check the settings in your camera and you should be able to select between sRGB or Adobe RGB. Once it is set to sRGB you don't have to worry about it unless you convert it into Adobe RGB in photoshop or whatever program you are using. I accidentally took a few shots in Adobe RGB a few years back and noticed the colors weren't as vibrant when viewed on the web, you pictures seem to have the opposite problem...sort of like your saturation slider had a mind of it's own. I find your colors much better with the pics above rather than on the first page.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13772288#post13772288 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Blazer88
Check the settings in your camera and you should be able to select between sRGB or Adobe RGB. Once it is set to sRGB you don't have to worry about it unless you convert it into Adobe RGB in photoshop or whatever program you are using. I accidentally took a few shots in Adobe RGB a few years back and noticed the colors weren't as vibrant when viewed on the web, you pictures seem to have the opposite problem...sort of like your saturation slider had a mind of it's own. I find your colors much better with the pics above rather than on the first page.

Thanks Blazer. I think I got it now. Yes, my photos on the first page were post processed on an external monitor that I don't regularly use and I'm not pleased with the outcome. I think I've dialed it in better with this display (on my MacBook Pro).


Here are a few fish (and a couple of corals) shots from tonight. I wish some of these were better pics, but they good enough to share :)

The Clowns:

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Clown2.jpg




The RBTA:

RBTA-1.jpg




Two new Zoanthids:

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DragonEye.jpg



...continued
 
It looks like you're progressing with the picture quality.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm not really impressed with the sharpness of the photos. It seems most of the images are a bit blurred on the edges.

Are you by chance shooting with too slow of a shutter speed? This may cause a little blur, especially in the fish pictures.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13812128#post13812128 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bwest
It looks like you're progressing with the picture quality.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm not really impressed with the sharpness of the photos. It seems most of the images are a bit blurred on the edges.

Are you by chance shooting with too slow of a shutter speed? This may cause a little blur, especially in the fish pictures.


Hey bwest - no worries at all - don't take critique the wrong way. Thanks for the feeback.

You nailed it on the head.... I'm shooting at shutter speeds that are way too low.

I have a great lens (100mm f/2.8 macro), but a pretty old camera (original Rebel 300D).

I can't shoot at more than 200 ISO because I get excessive noise on the photos. I take photos almost exclusively on Av, and can barely get decent shots at anything smaller than f/3.5. I'm usually stuck at f/3.5 or f/2.8 which gives me a very very shallow DOF, which is not what I always want.

Looking through the exif of my shots it looks like the majority are around 1/15 and 1/50 exposures. There is no way for me to get a good crisp photo at those speeds without a flash... but I'm trying to stay away from using it.

I can't even dream of photos above f/5.6 not to mention getting exposures under 1/50 without a flash....:mad2:

I'm open to any suggestions! (until I can get my 50D :) - which will probably be a few months still...)

I'm usually a believer in investing in lens and no so much in the latest and greatest camera, but I think I just need newer technology and better quality to produce the results I'm seeking.

Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks in advance,
 
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