Fire corals- ( Millepora)

danfrith

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I am thinking about adding a frag of Fire coral to my tank and was wondering what everyone elses experiences are with this genus of coral. I know that it can be invasive and also its stinging ability can be a problem but how does this coral usually do in captivity. Pictures would be great. Thanks.
 
Agreed.. Not worth buying i think.. I used to have one, nothing special. It does hurt though.. Maybe MAKOJ will chime in and share his fire coral experience :D
 
Milles are one of my faves, I have a large blue colony, a rose colony, a seafoam green colony, a tricolor colony, and a plain green colony, all growing quickly. They add alot of movement to your tank if you are trying to keep mostly sps...
 
They actually aren't even corals at all. They are Hydrocorals more closesly related to Portugese man o wars. Their care is similar to some of your more hardy sps corals.
 
Yep. Beyond interesting taxonomy, they are just oddities. I wouldn't discourage anyone from getting them, as they are simply interesting (not really colorful, just interesting) and incredibly hardy. Just be sure to keep it from anywhere it can readily encrust, as it will easily overtake other corals.
 
Are they pretty big encrusters? I was thinking about putting it on a seperate little "rock island" away from the main rock stucture. Anybody have some nice pics of this in their tank?
 
i got a frag in a pack from reefermadness, it looked like smooth digi, pale tan. it fell behind something and was lost.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11805646#post11805646 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Cheekmonkey
Milles are one of my faves, I have a large blue colony, a rose colony, a seafoam green colony, a tricolor colony, and a plain green colony, all growing quickly. They add alot of movement to your tank if you are trying to keep mostly sps...

Fire corals are not true corals. Fire corals are members of the phylum Cnidaria, class Hydrozoa, order Capitata, family Milleporidae. Although fire coral looks like coral, it is more closely related to jellyfish and other stinging anemones.
 
Agreed with the above. Generally they are pretty hardy and most will grow quite fast, especially with strong light and water flow. They are usually competitive dominants and can sting and overgrow other critters. Some primarily grow upright (branches, plates, columns) while others are primarily encrusting. Even those that tend to grow upright will encrust quite a bit most of the time though.

Personally I think they are absolutely spectacular and a tank that includes Millepora (very rare) always reminds me much more of a real honest-to-goodness coral reef, which has always been my goal with reef tanks. They are great corals, but I'd STRONGLY suggest keeping them on rock islands, so as to keep them from becoming invasive.

As for what's a "coral" vs. what isn't: it depends entirely on what we decide to call something. Those animals we call corals are a hodge-podge of distantly related organisms and excludes more closely related organisms.

For example, we call hard corals "corals" and we call soft corals "corals" but we call sea anemones "sea anemones," zoanthids "zoanthids," and mushroom polyps "mushroom polyps" even though anemones, zoanthids, and mushroom polyps are relatively close relatives of stony corals and soft corals are only distant relatives. In fact, mushroom polyps group out phylogenetically in the middle of the stony corals. They are, quite literally, naked corals. We also call hydrozoans like Millepora and Stylaster "corals."

The name "coral" is applied to several groups of distantly related anthozoans, but not to other anthozoans, and to a group of hydrozoans. Phylogenetically this makes no sense in the world, but nonetheless that's what we call them.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11805646#post11805646 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Cheekmonkey
Milles are one of my faves, I have a large blue colony, a rose colony, a seafoam green colony, a tricolor colony, and a plain green colony, all growing quickly. They add alot of movement to your tank if you are trying to keep mostly sps...

You are thinking about the species of Acropora, A. millepora. This thread is about the other Milleporas, the genus Millepora.

The most recent issue of Coral magazine has a few articles on them.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11805646#post11805646 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Cheekmonkey
Milles are one of my faves, I have a large blue colony, a rose colony, a seafoam green colony, a tricolor colony, and a plain green colony, all growing quickly. They add alot of movement to your tank if you are trying to keep mostly sps...

Wrong millepora.... We're talking about Millepora alcicornis not Acropora millepora. :rolleye1:

They can be hard to find. I know there is a colony line kicking around reefs in Michigan... I love it when they are open because they look wicked with all those ultra fine hairs along the branches. They remind me of nettels you find in the forest and they hurt almost as much when you touch them.

Milleporaalcicornis.jpg
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11815600#post11815600 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MCsaxmaster
Just to be clear though, there are many species of Millepora. M. alcicornis is but one of the species.

True enough, but M. alcicornis is the most common one I've ever encountered. I think there are like 40 or so species... I'm sure exact taxonomy is just as difficult, or worse because of a small polyp structure, than SPS...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11815675#post11815675 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 02REDZ28
True enough, but M. alcicornis is the most common one I've ever encountered. I think there are like 40 or so species... I'm sure exact taxonomy is just as difficult, or worse because of a small polyp structure, than SPS...

Huh, fair enough. I'd have to say that I only rarely see them kept in aquaria, but when I have it is usually an unidentified, encrusting species with Pacific origins. I've only seen M. alcicornis kept a few times, though it is perhaps among the very lovliest of reef animals IMHO.
 
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