Fire Safety

inwall75

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NOTE: I DID NOT HAVE ANOTHER FIRE. I COULDN'T FIND MY ORIGINAL THREAD FROM A LONG TIME AGO SO INSTEAD OF BUMPING IT UP, I'M REPOSTING.

I had a fire due to an arcing fault on an el-cheapo powerstrip. I thought I had done everything correctly. I had drip-loops, I wasn't exceeding the parameters of the powerstrip, etc. However, it turns out that el-cheapo's are notorious for catching fire if there is a constant draw (think pumps, heaters). After my fire, I immediately went out and bought these.

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Here is the offending Home Depot powerstrip.
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Look at the insides of this cheap powerstrip and compare it to the insides of a quality powerstrip.
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First off....I'm NOT AN ELECTRICIAN and I'm sure I'm describing this wrong. However, what some firemen and electricians explained to me is that when you use a cheap powerstrip that just operates by using three thin copper strips and you are plugging in something with a constant draw, you are at risk for an arching fault. This could be a pump, it could be a clock radio, a computer that is left running 24/7, etc. Apparently what happens is an oxidation occurs over time preventing current from flowing. When that happens in el-cheapo powerstrips, the current jumps (arcs) over the oxidation to an area where there is no oxidation. Eventually, this arcing causes the plastic to catch fire.

I was lucky to have insomnia that night. I hadn't changed the batteries in my downstairs smoke detector so it didn't go off. The only reason I investigated was because my lights were flickering. This fire actually cost me a small fortune because I had to spray every single surface in my basement with Kilz (not cheap) and repaint to get rid of the nasty smell. I also lost some livestock. Wiring my tank properly would have been much cheaper.

Quality powerstrips are worth it. In fact, after the fire, I went to GFCI outlets on a AFCI (Arc-Fault) circuit breaker. In fact, I had all of the equipment necessary for a professional wiring job sitting right there.....romex wire, GFCI outlets, a box to add a subpanel to my circuit breaker. A friend who was an electrician was going to wire it for free the following weekend.
 
i do have an el-cheapo powerstrip/ exten cord for my qt tank its not really a powerstrip it only have 3 plugs and its an 6ft extention cord, do you thing i should get a high dollar one this one cost me about $2.50, the qt tank is a 15g it only has a 15w light and a bio filter running on it, also the light is on a timer what do you think?
 
GS

I'm terribly sorry but I'm not qualified to give you an answer. There's a number of electricians on this board who will hopefully see this thread. However, if they don't, please find someone locally.

I've personally fought a fire with dirty towels and saltwater. It was HARD. I don't want anyone else to go through that and that is the reason for the post. However, I'm not an electrician and that's who you need to speak with.
 
thanks for the info!
I have to do a little more diigging on the power squid to find out how its insides are
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9756122#post9756122 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by roader247
Good Post Hope every thing is OK now, how bad was your fire.

Mark

If I had been asleep and not seen the lights flickering, the fire would have taken my house down. This happened in the fish room and the fire climbed up the studs and was trying the light the subfloor (for the first floor) on fire. The house was 40 years old and that old plywood caught fire easily.

I was literally jumping up with a wet towel and slapping the ceiling and wall. My fish room was always a mess.....however, by the time I got the fire out, it was much messier than usual.
 
I had a fire also, about 2 years ago. It was also a faulty powerstrip. However, my powerstrip was made specifically for aquarium use. I was out of my house for 4 months while they rebuilt some areas and cleaned, etc. We were not home at the time. Thankfully the fire blew the window out of my office, which shut the door. Then my acrylic tank melted and put the fire out. That room was destroyed by the fire and the rest of the house had significant smoke damage.

This powerstrip held (Ibelieve) 8 plug ins. I utilized 3. Power compact light, 2 powerheads (or maybe 1 powerhead and 1 heater). I can't remember now. I think I posted photos on here. Drip loops were in place and I hadn't had this powerstrip hooked up for very long.

I am very happy you didn't lose your house or more importantly your lives. Fires at night while we are asleep are very dangerous. We can die from smoke inhalation without every waking up.
 
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