(First Reef Tank Ever) **** 600gal Display **** 1300gal System

[cbui2]

thanks, coming soon

 

[melev]

 

[cbui2]

thanks Marc. ok i just finally finished adding baffles in the sump to stop microbubbles problems i been having. not to mention after removing the filter pads in the middle of sump i found my diadema pseudochromis :lol: which have been MIA for 3 weeks and luckily for me he was still alive. 150gal water change and shop vac sump. few things i will be changing on the entire sump designs which if i had known what i knew today would make my job a lot easier. next in line i will plumb one of my overflow directly to the skimmer for now until i can sell my deltec and ask spazz to make me a real monster then both overflows can be plumb into skimmer. 2 waveboxes have been installed few weeks back and looking for 2 more 6201's w/7095 since i taught the 2 CL was enough yeah right, then i will add 2 more down the line as more corals are introduced. my 150 gal 1st fuge is growing like weeds currently 2 120watts 6100k spiral bulbs lights w/reflector but still need to finished that by placing more lights since the fuge is fairly large 48"x30"x24". some fishes are in qt for about 2 months now and probably introduced them in another month since i learn my lesson . my foxface is still releasing some white mucus from his top and bottom dorsals and hanging in the colt coral most of the time.

 

[wigo]

A picture or 2 would certainly make people want to read this thread again.
I am starting to think this thread should be closed.
Bart,
not to pester you too much but people ahve been asking for a picture and you certainly have had time to take a picture between all your posting on this site. To keep up with the expectations that you have put forth, you might want to put a picture up or people will quit taking you seriously.
After the joke and then coming back, you certainly owe it to your readers.

 

[reefkoi]

Awesome...........sounds like you are on the right track now, funny I have the same size 600 myself and started off with 1 dart and 1 hammerhead for flow! Now I have 2 hammers on 2 closed loops, 1 dart on the return, 4 tunze 6200's and i'm installing 2 waveboxes today in fact.
The waveboxes are going to be very interesting, I'm scared to get them running and lose all my water lol
are yours running with water right now? or did you just install them?
I'd love any tips on the wavebox since UPS is bringing me 2 of them today to install on one end of the tank.
C

 

[erics3000]

Funny MARC>>>> hehehe

Hey Bart... When you get some time can you give us the run down on your new sump design. I changed mine all around and putt all my equipment in the garage instead of under the stand. Since I changed my original plans things aren’t setup to there best. I want to change my fuge and put it along my sump. 1 less pump and all my return water will go through my fuge first before my sump. Same deal with direct feed for my skimmer when I get time to make a decent one or buy one. I have been thinking of using my 150 for the fuge instead of the 75 and buying a 150 Rubbermaid to put along side the 150 fuge. I like the extra water capacity but if you want to dose anything it all adds up..Oh well.. ,Look forward to your update and pics.

 

[mcliffy2]

Just came to check out your thread as I've appreciated your advice on mine. Glad you decided to keep going, Im looking forward to seeing it redone. As to pics, RC is not job, its for fun and learning, take your time, the tank is first priority, get it right then post some pics... and Im guessing many reefers have gone through the frustration you did.

 

[cbui2]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11714233#post11714233 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefkoi
Awesome...........sounds like you are on the right track now, funny I have the same size 600 myself and started off with 1 dart and 1 hammerhead for flow! Now I have 2 hammers on 2 closed loops, 1 dart on the return, 4 tunze 6200's and i'm installing 2 waveboxes today in fact.
The waveboxes are going to be very interesting, I'm scared to get them running and lose all my water lol
are yours running with water right now? or did you just install them?
I'd love any tips on the wavebox since UPS is bringing me 2 of them today to install on one end of the tank.
C

thanks, i started with 4 4300gph and 2 CL 6000gph on OM-4way and still not enough flow. as of now my water level is 2" below eurobrace letting me to fully blast both waveboxes, but eventually i will have to extend the overflow boxes so more water will enter not creating any splash noises. some tips i have is to set both waveboxes at lowest point for pulse and motor then gradually work your way up the waves, this way the waves can keep up with each other making sure you staggered both boxes so they don't pump at the same time. you will get a very large wave, but this will varies with different tanks since my rock stacks are toward the rear and all my returns creates a circular motion. both waveboxes are mounted toward the front of display which is an eye sore, hopefully i can build something in the near future. i am so tired working through the night getting thing done. up till 7am this morning and no coffee or sugar can help me now only :beer:

 

[cbui2]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11714079#post11714079 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wigo
A picture or 2 would certainly make people want to read this thread again.
I am starting to think this thread should be closed.
Bart,
not to pester you too much but people have been asking for a picture and you certainly have had time to take a picture between all your posting on this site. To keep up with the expectations that you have put forth, you might want to put a picture up or people will quit taking you seriously.
After the joke and then coming back, you certainly owe it to your readers.

sorry but if you want to closed the thread guess you have to ask the moderator. i don't have any time to take pics, but if you want pics i should have tons of pics from the beginning of the build. i will take some pics soon when i get a chance.

 

[wigo]

I understand, there are just a lot of people who would love to see your work. Your work has been incredible. I do not mean to insult you at all. We are just curious. I know you are working hard. There have just been a ton of requests for more pictures.

We would just like to see the tank. Consider it a learning experience for all of us.
But alas you are busy. Sorry for bugging you.

 

[jnarowe]

so Bart, is your tank built strong enough for waves? Roger @ Tunze recommends that tanks be built out of one size pane larger than standard to deal with the extra force.

 

[cbui2]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11714629#post11714629 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by erics3000
Funny MARC>>>> hehehe

Hey Bart... When you get some time can you give us the run down on your new sump design. I changed mine all around and putt all my equipment in the garage instead of under the stand. Since I changed my original plans things aren’t setup to there best. I want to change my fuge and put it along my sump. 1 less pump and all my return water will go through my fuge first before my sump. Same deal with direct feed for my skimmer when I get time to make a decent one or buy one. I have been thinking of using my 150 for the fuge instead of the 75 and buying a 150 Rubbermaid to put along side the 150 fuge. I like the extra water capacity but if you want to dose anything it all adds up..Oh well.. ,Look forward to your update and pics.

sure Eric, all i did for now was added 3 baffles to stop microbubbles. if i had to redo it all again, i would use the main display overflow to feed everything including skimmer and media that way by the time water passes through all the filtration, filter water will flow back into main sump keeping it crystal clear. IMO the more water volume is always better, pics are coming soon. it add up once you ordered 300gal+

 

[cbui2]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11716106#post11716106 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
so Bart, is your tank built strong enough for waves? Roger @ Tunze recommends that tanks be built out of one size pane larger than standard to deal with the extra force.

of course not, current tank 1" sides, 6" eurobrace aorund permiter with 2 12" crossbraces and 3/4" bottom. it needed to be at least 1.25" thick but please keep your finger cross for me. he told me that i will lose about 15% life of the display or get stronger braces. hopefully the current eurobraces will hold up.

 

[cbui2]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11716100#post11716100 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wigo
I understand, there are just a lot of people who would love to see your work. Your work has been incredible. I do not mean to insult you at all. We are just curious. I know you are working hard. There have just been a ton of requests for more pictures.

We would just like to see the tank. Consider it a learning experience for all of us.
But alas you are busy. Sorry for bugging you.

thanks, not at all. no insult taking as i was answering any questions as they come.

 

[jnarowe]

well, tough to determine a percent of life eh? But if you have enough flow, you could de-tune the wave boxes so they don't create waves right? That wold just leave you with efficient powerfull flow don't you think? You don't have to have waves.

 

[cbui2]

most definitely, the wavebox are there just for a little more extra current. i used CL toward the rear to blow behind the rocks and dead spots at the bottom to keep detritus from building up and front CL are pointing straight toward the overflow boxes. all the returns are pointed to the right of the display creating counter clockwise movement. i think just 2 more 6201's will do the job

 

[tankguy001]

This was incredible , I could never imagine setting up something like this. My hats off to you

 

[FuzzyZipperbaum]

WOW.... just finished this monster thread, the highs...the lows... the rebirth...

cbui2: I'm glad you were joking cause you would have come home from work and I would have been inside your tank resetting it up... "don't mind me Mr Cbui2...., I'll be done in a few days!"


Anyway, I will be starting my 500g in a few months so this was a great read.....

 

[mflamb]

Yo Bart,
What LFS do you deal with in NO?

 

[46bfinGA]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11716874#post11716874 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
well, tough to determine a percent of life eh? But if you have enough flow, you could de-tune the wave boxes so they don't create waves right? That wold just leave you with efficient powerfull flow don't you think? You don't have to have waves.

Thats the plan with my waveboxes on my 600. Have all the benefits of the flow without pulsing them to were they would produce waves on the surface. No worries about the waves reducing the life of the tank.