Fish Store recommend?
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keithntracy
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Oh thanks. Hope to never have to know what it is first hand. 
keithntracy
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Brian, he is doing great! We also have a scopas and Keith, having a bit of the tang bug, wants a Gem. But I think $3,500 is a bit too much for a fish. Call me crazy...
Tank is running great. Looks very nice. Everything is up and running..lights, top off, skimmer...all the good stuff...lol...you all have to come by one of these days!
Tank is running great. Looks very nice. Everything is up and running..lights, top off, skimmer...all the good stuff...lol...you all have to come by one of these days!
lifesworksataol
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pet safari is the one by that tattoo place. mike is a nice guy and knows his stuff. they always have cool and sometimes odd stuff in there. they also are the only place i have seen that sells yumas. $25.00 they are the watermelon ones.
keithntracy
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Oh yeah, that's the place. They do have some interesting stuff!
bluerug
Moved On
Oh because my sohal had hlle your gonna get all nasty about it, well thats ok what ever floats your boat. No skin off my teeth and i will actually have someone come to the thread and actually tell you a little more about hlle. The fact is no one really knows what causes it, could be a number of many things.
chrisstie
Premium Member
I have been to several stores in the area and there is always room for improvement. No store is going to be perfect, and surprisingly despite being in the hobby for a long time, you can always learn something new.
What's important is that instead of faulting our local stores is that we address (I recommend carefully and politely) the owner or management with constructive criticism.
I'm glad you can go and read any article and sound like an expert on HLLE bluerug, probably an article like http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-06/sp/index.php, but lets say you had 30 years experience in this hobby and have owned or worked with several tangs over these 30 years. Despite scientists not doing conclusive studies on such a thing doesn't mean that simply just through trial and error most cases of HLLE are truly caused by diet difficiencies. Every fish I've seen with this is usually on the wrong diet for its species and very quickly recovers when put on the right diet.
Some people who run or work at a fish store may not have this experience or may not know it. Perhaps its cheaper to make up a batch of food all at once at a store and feed fish accordingly - if someone mentions that its easier to get the proper nutrition to fish by feeding the veggie type foods first, hungry fish will eat it up and will get the nutrition they need if they are omnivorous or herbivorous. You just can't assume everyone knows the same amount of stuff about fish - in the business or not.
That's where a club like ORCA should come in- everyone will always have their store preferences but if you do see something that seems off, my guess is store owners would be willing to listen if you were able to voice your concerns in a constructive matter.
My personal pet peeve is when a fish expires (which from time to time they will in a store. Shipping is very stressful as is being in a small holding tank) and the store leaves said fish in the tank. I think stores look healthier and cleaner without these mishaps on display. If I'm ever at a store and see this I try to point out that "um, you seem to have a dead one" or something to that effect.
Also I know living as far away as you do Jason you probably dont go out to too many stores, but there are a few on the central and east side of town that I see selling yumas for pretty much the same price and even the ones I've taken a drive to out to the west and south.
Don't forget most stores can usually order something in if you don't see it if you just ask
What's important is that instead of faulting our local stores is that we address (I recommend carefully and politely) the owner or management with constructive criticism.
I'm glad you can go and read any article and sound like an expert on HLLE bluerug, probably an article like http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-06/sp/index.php, but lets say you had 30 years experience in this hobby and have owned or worked with several tangs over these 30 years. Despite scientists not doing conclusive studies on such a thing doesn't mean that simply just through trial and error most cases of HLLE are truly caused by diet difficiencies. Every fish I've seen with this is usually on the wrong diet for its species and very quickly recovers when put on the right diet.
Some people who run or work at a fish store may not have this experience or may not know it. Perhaps its cheaper to make up a batch of food all at once at a store and feed fish accordingly - if someone mentions that its easier to get the proper nutrition to fish by feeding the veggie type foods first, hungry fish will eat it up and will get the nutrition they need if they are omnivorous or herbivorous. You just can't assume everyone knows the same amount of stuff about fish - in the business or not.
That's where a club like ORCA should come in- everyone will always have their store preferences but if you do see something that seems off, my guess is store owners would be willing to listen if you were able to voice your concerns in a constructive matter.
My personal pet peeve is when a fish expires (which from time to time they will in a store. Shipping is very stressful as is being in a small holding tank) and the store leaves said fish in the tank. I think stores look healthier and cleaner without these mishaps on display. If I'm ever at a store and see this I try to point out that "um, you seem to have a dead one
" or something to that effect.Also I know living as far away as you do Jason you probably dont go out to too many stores, but there are a few on the central and east side of town that I see selling yumas for pretty much the same price and even the ones I've taken a drive to out to the west and south.
Don't forget most stores can usually order something in if you don't see it if you just ask
keithntracy
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Yes, and then we can take a ride to your house! I want to see that beast of yours. What's left to do after the plumbing?
cowboyswife
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If there is something off about about a store that I go into, there is no way I would call out the owner and tell him what I dont like about it. He probably couldnt care less what I think about it. As long as the store is still in business and he has other customers, one person's opinion, whether an ORCA member or not, isnt going to mean beans. Ive been into Fishy Business many times, and Im not going to get an employee to walk with me while I point out every fish covered in ich, with hlle, or all the dead fish I see. IMHO, if they really cared, then they would take the time to walk through the store themselves and take care of the issues. Hence the reason why I have never purchased anything from that store, and probably never will.
There are so many things that can case hlle - improper diet, stray voltage in the water, stress, poor water quality, etc. The list can go on and on. So, to avoid fish getting it, at the risk of sounding bad, just take care of your tank and feed your fish right.
There are so many things that can case hlle - improper diet, stray voltage in the water, stress, poor water quality, etc. The list can go on and on. So, to avoid fish getting it, at the risk of sounding bad, just take care of your tank and feed your fish right.
tangers
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just so funny how you always brag in past threads how healthy your fish are, you can come see them anytime you want, etc... come to find out that that sohal is very unnourished. that fish doesn't have slight hlle markings, they are actually pretty bad. this kind of stuff doesn't just appear overnight like said before. but somehow on these boards you always seem to know what your talking about and are never willing to accept other peoples opinions, just now as stated above, " my sohal had hlle your gonna get all nasty about it, well thats ok what ever floats your boat". when actually that is a pretty big deal and you should be more concerned. the fact that you aren't kind of bothers me. intead of bragging to everyone about your fish stores and your fish all the time, maybe you should ask a few more questions. we are all in this hobby together, and it's OUR experiences that make it work, not just YOURS.
keithntracy
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Cool! Can't wait to see everyone's new tanks...so exciting!
bluerug
Moved On
I don't think all of the other fish in my tank were in bad health, but please do tell me if they were. For the record they are not my fish stores but i do in fact go to them, big deal i like a store you don't its called get over it. As stated before no one truly knows the cause of HLLE and its just one of those things that happen, its called life, once again get over it. And I am aware of the fact that its not all about my experiences, but i do have the right to voice my experiences as so do you. But sit back and think about what you are saying before you type it. As to your comment before about spending more money on better food, I have the means to feed my fish gold flakes if i want to but do I? No, and I am not saying I feed my fish crap food but i don't go out and spend hundreds of dollars on food.
