Flame scallops breeding.....

[BoiseStateFan]

I have a nasty little Sunrise Dottyback that i was chasing around trying to get out of the tank, and I turned a rock over that to my surprise had around 50 miniature flame scallops attached. Ive had 5-6 of them in my tank for a few years and evidently they bred. I have lots of filter feeders so I heavily feed DT's and zooplankton. Anybody else with such luck?

 

[saveafish]

Well I have had margiriata snails do that. and I have 40-50ft ribbion of snail eggs from cerith snails as I speak plus hundereds of babby somethings (I think pep shrimp) so it aint all that un common to have odd things breed. but the rear thing is them growing up. My manderins are having a feast on the eggs now. Just wait till the morning comes and your anomanie is gone than a few days later there is 5 of them poking out of the rocks.

 

[mokeyz]

That is awesome - how big are the babies - if you can identify them as flame scallops then I'm sure they will survive just fine. I have various snails that have spawned and have baby snails, stomatella that reproduce easily and survive. My cleaner shrimp have babies weekly (but they don't survive), last night my Sexy shrimp gave birth - that was cool! I also have a rock anemone that spawned a couple of months ago...

 

[Kolognekoral]

First I've heard of breeding flame scallops! Congratulations:bounce1: :bounce3: :bounce2: :dance: :bounce3: :bounce1: :bounce2:

Can you take some fotos to document the kids? I've always wanted to add a few to my refugium, but others have had such poor luck with them I decided not to bother. Well, you've given one hope.

 

[BoiseStateFan]

Pics coming soon, im out of town til tuesday but i'll post them ASAP. They are exact replica's of their parents, about 1/2 inch across. Im hoping they survive to adulthood, but I cant find anything about the care for the babies. I guess i'll just keep doing everything i have been doing.

 

[clownFish1313]

i see a lot of you hade snails spawn so ill ask it here to i have like 30-50 tiny little what i think is snail eggs what do snail eggs look like? mine look like spiral little snails and they fell like they have shells? i have 5 astras and thats all the snails i have

 

[OnoIgotICH]

You have been feeding alot. That explains basically everything.

 

[mano]

They will eat phytoplankton, so they must be happy with the DT's. You should check out project dibs, a group of invert breeders. I'm sure they would love to hear about your success and see some pics.

 

[dendro982]

Congratulations! I never heard until now about such luck.

BoiseStateFan, if you do not consider this as a thread hitchhiking or intrusion, and agree to answer my questions - please, post everything possible about your system. Including not only corals ans scallops photos, but the whole system photos (please!), including filtration, with reference to the amount and frequency of the food, it processes.

What you are feeding, how much, how frequently, in what amount.
Where the scallops are placed (photos in relation to the flow and other inhabitants. I would really appreciate, if you do that).

How would you formulate, where to put the flame scallop in aquascaping the first time, right after arrival, so it will be good for it.

You see, I had the flame scallop a long time ago, but the placement was not right, and it was close to the sand, and eventually the sand got inside the scallop - during the LR basting and sand cleaning, during water changes.

I really would like to learn more about their keeping - share with community, please.
And your thought on what is more important, what - less.

Thank you.

P.S. Pardon the amount of please in the post: I really can't emphasize the other way, that I'm asking nicely for a help for all of us, and am not intruding the thread and pushing the people around, as I was recently pointed. Sorry.

 

[GreshamH]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12051758#post12051758 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mano
They will eat phytoplankton

Question is, what phytoplankton? Surely not chlorella or Nanno.

 

[BoiseStateFan]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12062985#post12062985 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dendro982
Congratulations! I never heard until now about such luck.

BoiseStateFan, if you do not consider this as a thread hitchhiking or intrusion, and agree to answer my questions - please, post everything possible about your system. Including not only corals ans scallops photos, but the whole system photos (please!), including filtration, with reference to the amount and frequency of the food, it processes.

What you are feeding, how much, how frequently, in what amount.
Where the scallops are placed (photos in relation to the flow and other inhabitants. I would really appreciate, if you do that).

How would you formulate, where to put the flame scallop in aquascaping the first time, right after arrival, so it will be good for it.

You see, I had the flame scallop a long time ago, but the placement was not right, and it was close to the sand, and eventually the sand got inside the scallop - during the LR basting and sand cleaning, during water changes.

I really would like to learn more about their keeping - share with community, please.
And your thought on what is more important, what - less.

Thank you.

P.S. Pardon the amount of please in the post: I really can't emphasize the other way, that I'm asking nicely for a help for all of us, and am not intruding the thread and pushing the people around, as I was recently pointed. Sorry.

Im still out of town, so i'll answer as much as possible.


I bought a group of flame scallops a few years back, and tried to place them where I thought they would look nice. They didnt like being out in the open and all found crevices to hide in and have stayed their since.


Ive been feeding DT's phyto- Nannochloropsis oculata and chlorella-, along with some Kent Marine zooplankton. I have lots of filter feeders, gorgonians, scallops, and half a dozen very small maxima's. I dump in a few cap full's 2x a day.

The baby FS's attached to a rock under a crevice that gets zero light. I never would have seen them if I wasnt chasing a fish around. I thought about moving their rock, but they are obviously happy where they're at, so I left it alone.


I have a 265 gallon SPS/LPS dominated tank. Nothing too fancy otherwise. I dont run my skimmer constantly, so im not sure if that may be helping or not. Oh yeah, I do have a 33 gallon fuge and a 125 gallon sump. Fuge contains 2 seahorses(hippocampus reiddi I believe. They were sold to me as "Brazillian Reds", and 2 messmate pipefish. Sump contains a very nasty sunrise dottyback and mangroves.

 

[B.C.theReefer]

I've found that quite a few different inverts will reproduce in an aquarium that is well established and healthy. One of my bddies has a T. crocea that recently released a cloud of spawn into his water. There were no other clams. So it only succeeded in fouling his system pretty good. Something laid eggs on my star polyps not long ago also. They got eaten and I never found out what laid them. But that's awesome that your flame scallops spawned. Heck, if they keep doing it you could make a little money off of them!

 

[dendro982]

Clams send clouds of reproductive material, when they are stressed too - my tridacna did this during the tank medications. Appearance of the new clams - that would be interesting (no offence, it's just a different thing).

Flame and electric scallops are special among all other invertebrates - they are usually described, as impossible to keep at all - not mention to reproduce, have larvae settlement and grow the young scallops.

I'm monitoring this information closely (mostly web based) for the 2 yrs. It's really a very rare case - such method of keeping is worth close studying and implementing. For those, who are interested in keeping flame scallops, of course.

I'll wait for more info, and will refer to this thread the others flame and electric scallops keepers.
Thanks again.

 

["Umm fish?"]

Appearance of the new clams - that would be interesting (no offence, it's just a different thing).

Not terribly likely in an uncontrolled tank setting, even positing that you have both viable eggs and sperm. Polyspermy, for one. And, not enough food coupled with too many predators for two and three. But, just 'cause you don't see any little ones doesn't necessarily mean that the spawn was a stress spawn.

But, I'm with you on wanting photos and care details. Does anyone know if flame scallops are brooders? That would make success far more likely. I guess I could go do the research....

Look like that's a no. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0QPU/is_2_24/ai_n15380342/pg_1

 

[dendro982]

"Umm, fish?": Looks to me like barking (figuratively speaking, no offense meant) on the wrong tree:
- I don't have 'both viable eggs and sperm",
- I have nothing to do with polyspermy, food and predators - no clams are reproducing in my tanks,
- I didn't stated, that all spawnings are stress induced, mind "too" in my post,
- how on the earth can I see the little ones in the tanks, that have no reproducing clams, stress or not induced (this is not a question ),
- I don't care - after previous phrases in your post - are you with me or not, you clearly stated your position to me, unasked.

I didn't expected that from you, Andy.
The last thing I wanted see in you - making an enemies. I thought, we both have more important work to do. Sorry.

Unsubscribed from this thread.
It was nice to see you all.

 

[dendro982]

My sincere apologies, Umm, Fish:
Please, disregard my previous message. I will contact administrator to erase it.
I found the person with better English, than my - he said, that this was a norm of behavior.

I understand your feeling been insulted, just like I was 1 hour ago. Really sorry - my fault.

BoiseStateFan: Pardon this deviation from the topic of the flame scallops reproduction, it will not happen again.

 

["Umm fish?"]

Oh heck, I'm sorry. I was trying to discuss the issues and never meant it as an attack on you at all, dendro. I'm really excited by the work you do and follow your threads and I'm appalled at myself for phrasing my statements in a way that made you think I was attacking you. Please know that I meant no offense and am heartily sorry that I gave offense.

I think the job here is first to figure out if these are juvenile scallops. If so, how they got there (whether sexual reproduction in-tank or came in as hitchhikers). If sexual reproduction, is it possible to repeat the process? An important side discussion would be to simply figure out how they're being maintained and whether it is long-term (and can the success be replicated).

And, BoiseStateFan, I'm not trying to say that I don't believe you. I'm just trying to eliminate the other possibilities.

So, from the article whose URL I posted above, it looks like flame scallops may have small spawns throughout the year as long as conditions are ripe. That behavior makes it more likely to me that this might be a successful spawning rather than, say, with clams and their mass spawns because of the polyspermy problem mentioned above. (Polyspermy = a problem caused by too many sperm fertilizing an egg that essentially kills the egg's viability. This is a big problem with clam and oyster spawns in captivity because there's just too little water mass to dilute the sperm enough to keep eggs viable.)

But, I'm really looking forward to seeing and hearing more about this!