Flat Worms!!!!!!

Freshbrew

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Well its official, I am now up to my a$$ in flatworms! HELP!! does anything besides a wrasse eat things darn things? I was at the pet store and he cautioned me about using the chemicals because when the flatworms die, they give off a toxic chemical, as I am sure everything does. He said I would have to do 25% water changes atleast the day after the treatment and possibly past that. I don't produce that much water or get that much time off to do that. Any ideas or am I stuck with the above?

He also said that mandarins have been know to eat flatworms, true or fiction?

Thanks
 
Thanks, I also checked on Marine Depot's website, where it talks about pests, it says Mandarin fish will eat them as well. Since they are less pest like, this may be what I do. Still open to other ideas though
 
They look like crud but they do help keep your tank clean. Ever since I eradicated them in one of my Mantis tanks, I have been battling to keep the tank clean. Someday I may loose my mind and purpossly reinnocluate my tank, then get the Nudibranch to keep them in check.

You should be able to eradicate them with Flat Worm Exit, using one day off on two weekends. Syphon out as many as you can before you start, then you dose 3 - 4x the recommended dose or Flat Worm Exit (recommended dose makes your flat worms laugh) and as soon as you see them start to die off you start running a boat load of carbon to soak up the toxic juices. Run that for several hours, then do a big 50% water change. Then repeat the next weekend to kill the stragglers.
 
Do what Thurge says. I just treated my GF's tank the other day with Flatworm exit. Needs more then recomended dose. And for sure try and take as many as possible out. Of course if I could start over I would just buy some wrasses and a spotted mandarin.
 
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Do what Thurge says. I just treated my GF's tank the other day with Flatworm exit. Needs more then recomended dose. And for sure try and take as many as possible out. Of course if I could start over I would just buy some wrasses and a spotted mandarin.

Yep, FWE didn't do the job on my tank they kept coming back but this guys taken care of all of them! :)

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Chris, I like the wrasse and mandarin method. If they don't help your problem in a couple of weeks, then maybe use the chemicals.
 
If you physically remove as many as possible by siphon, then add any or all of the following.

1. The blue velvet nudibranch ( this is the most problematic of all of the solutions, I have tried them with little success. They go into overflow, they get turned into minced meat in power heads and depending on the size of your tank and severity of the break out of flat worms, it could take a small army of them to do the job and they are not supper cheap. The last problem, is that there entire diet consist of flat worms, that’s it, nothing else so when there food supply is eradicated, you will need to remove them and find then a flat worm infested home, or they will die.
2. As calvin415 has pointed out and was nice enough to supply a pic of, the green target mandarin goby (Synchiropus picturatus) not the blue mandarin goby (Synchiropus splendidus) do an excellent job of eradicating small numbers of worms is tank up to 125-150 gallon were beyond that more fish are required.
3. Any wrasse in the Pseudocheilinus family; They are referred to as having (micro vision) and these fish will devour the flat worms and service your clams for parasitic snails as well, they are very beneficial. This family includes but is limited to the secretive wrasse (Pseudocheilinus evanidus), sixline wrasse (Pseudocheilinus hexataenia), eightline wrasse (Pseudocheilinus octoaenia), fourline wrasse (Pseudocheilinus tetrataenia) extra.
4. The yellow or golden “coris wrasse” (Halichoeres chrysus) is also a great reef inhabitant and a mighty destroyer of flat worms.
5. Then as a last resort, the chemical genocide of (flat worm exit) from Salifert. This will not only kill the flat worms but can also kill many desirable inverts in your system. You need to be there with carbon and water change water ready to go to detoxify the tank from the dieing worms. Also, it DOES NOT KILL THE EGGS, so they will be back and every following treatment even at higher doses will be less effective as the worms develop an immunity.


This is not, nor was it intended to be a complete and comprehensive list or way to eradicate flat worms, merely a suggestion of some common, affordable and easy ways to help with the problem.

Good luck and good hunting,

Scott
 
I've heard that sleeper gobies sometimes work as well. Two mandarins pretty much cleared out one of my 1000 gallons in a few months.

Also, if you find them concentrated on any removable rock or coral, a 10-15 sec freshwater dip (and shake) will make them drop off and explode. I did this last week on all of my corals in the prop tank...none the worse for wear. Maybe you could bait them onto a removable fixture?
 
Halichores Melanurs is the best enemy against flatworms...I would extract as many as you can via siphon, then add the above mentioned fish and ramp up the flow dramatically. Steer clear of the flatworm exit...the die off has been known to crash tanks.
 
Thanks guys, as my canopy is still under development, dont laugh Todd, I will prob go with the target mandarin method. Will they eat the eggs as well? Also, I went to Pet Paradise and was told that they wont eat the red flatworms, didn't know there was a difference. I really appreciate all the info and will keep you posted, I essentially have a flatworm tank right now, lol. I wish I had read these posts this morning. If I had I would be putting the madarin in my tank right now and the fight would be on. Thanks again!

Calvin, thanks for the pic, it helps this newbie figure out what everyone is talking about. If I would of had a picture of flat worms, I would have spotted them sooner, now they are like a plague. They won't eat an anenome will they?
 
Do you guys that have had them know where they came from? what type of coral? and did you see them in the tank where you bought the corals? I'd like to know how it happens and how to try an avoid this.
Chris
 
Yeah, I knew the guy that I got my live rock had them, but I had used the Flatworm Exit prior to putting the fish in the tank and and didnt see them for a while, so I thought I killed them all. Then they started showing up. At first I thought they were small pieces of algae the fish were picking at, but no my ignorant bliss is over now, lol
 
Okay, bought my target mandarin about 10 hours ago and I still have flatworms. Whats the deal guys. JUST KIDDING. Thanks for the advise and the battle is on!
 
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I am trailing along to find a good solution also. It seems that my level of flatworms stay about the same, and that they stay towards the bottom middle of the tank. Here are the fish that I have:
Blue Spotted rabbit
White Cheek tang
O. Clown
Royal Gramma
Huge! Engineer goby
My only thoughts are that as the engineer shovels the sand he is inhaling them and that has ket the population in check, who knows.

I am really getting the itch for another mandarin though. I had a splendid for a 1.5 years and then lost her when she went in the overflow. The targets are not as pretty, but obviously they do the job. I have always liked six-line wrasses, but I hear they can get aggressive. Is there any difference in success and temperament between them and a four or twelve line. Those two seem to be more expensive, and I was wondering why?

Thanks for all the insight!
David
 
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