faulkincanyon
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GO TECH!!!!!
Football Saturday's in da South
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The0wn4g3
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Obviously recruiting is hurting, as it would any team. next season we're suppose to be getting some Qb that was ranked # in the natino in highschool, but he was probably coming for the spread, so I don't know what will happen there.
Heated? That's not what I read or heard. What happened was the offensive coaches, and probably Lauder, force Tubbs to fire him. Tubbs don't think Tubbs wanted to fire Franklin, although I agree he should have been fired. i mean seriously, when you put Todd in over Burns, that's just not good coaching. That's playing favorites, which really effected the feeling of the team because everyone knew that's what was happening.
Oh c'mon, you can't compare Tubb's house to Saban's contract salary, not even close Plus, still paying off the other coaches that were fired. Imagine all the crap that you could clean up in T-Town with that money.
That TX v TxT was one awesome game. Too bad TX lost....
Heated? That's not what I read or heard. What happened was the offensive coaches, and probably Lauder, force Tubbs to fire him. Tubbs don't think Tubbs wanted to fire Franklin, although I agree he should have been fired. i mean seriously, when you put Todd in over Burns, that's just not good coaching. That's playing favorites, which really effected the feeling of the team because everyone knew that's what was happening.
Oh c'mon, you can't compare Tubb's house to Saban's contract salary, not even close Plus, still paying off the other coaches that were fired. Imagine all the crap that you could clean up in T-Town with that money.
That TX v TxT was one awesome game. Too bad TX lost....
Uh AU is paying two offensive coorinators contract right now they fired.
1 Bob Stoops $6,500,000
2 Pete Carroll $4,400,000
3 Charlie Weis $4,200,000
4 Les Miles $3,751,000
5 Nick Saban $3,750,000
6 Jim Tressel $3,500,000
7 Urban Meyer $3,400,000
8 Kirk Ferentz $3,030,000
9 Mack Brown $2,910,000
10 Tommy Tuberville $2,825,000
Dont hate UA because AU is not getting there money's worth.
So your saying AU's offensive coaches have more powere than tubb's to fire franklin? Not good.
1 Bob Stoops $6,500,000
2 Pete Carroll $4,400,000
3 Charlie Weis $4,200,000
4 Les Miles $3,751,000
5 Nick Saban $3,750,000
6 Jim Tressel $3,500,000
7 Urban Meyer $3,400,000
8 Kirk Ferentz $3,030,000
9 Mack Brown $2,910,000
10 Tommy Tuberville $2,825,000
Dont hate UA because AU is not getting there money's worth.
So your saying AU's offensive coaches have more powere than tubb's to fire franklin? Not good.
The0wn4g3
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I'm not sure where you got those statistics. "On January 3, 2007, Alabama signed former LSU and Miami Dolphins coach Nick Saban to a reported 8 year, $32 million contract, making him the highest paid college football coach at the time." + 700k to 800k bowl game bonus per year. And, don't forget Mike Sula at $5.4 million.
$32 mil compared to $21 mil over 8 years? Please....
Not getting our money's worth?
2002 Alabama 7 Auburn 17
2003 Alabama 23 Auburn 28
2004 Alabama 13 Auburn 21 -> undefeated
2005 Alabama 18 Auburn 28
2006 Alabama 15 Auburn 22
2007 Alabama 10 Auburn 17
Tubb's record: 80-33
That's not too bad at all...
No, they don't have more power than him. I don't know where you got that, because it's not at all what I'm saying. Seems like everyone disliking the OC can really throw a wrench in the gears. I guess Tubs thought it was enough to fire him. Tubs wasn't born yesterday. He has a decent history of knowing what to do and when to do it.
$32 mil compared to $21 mil over 8 years? Please....
Not getting our money's worth?
2002 Alabama 7 Auburn 17
2003 Alabama 23 Auburn 28
2004 Alabama 13 Auburn 21 -> undefeated
2005 Alabama 18 Auburn 28
2006 Alabama 15 Auburn 22
2007 Alabama 10 Auburn 17
Tubb's record: 80-33
That's not too bad at all...
No, they don't have more power than him. I don't know where you got that, because it's not at all what I'm saying. Seems like everyone disliking the OC can really throw a wrench in the gears. I guess Tubs thought it was enough to fire him. Tubs wasn't born yesterday. He has a decent history of knowing what to do and when to do it.
My guess is that Auburn has more on the payroll than that, and I am speaking of former coaches. Same could be said about Alabama, (you better believe Shula, and some of his staff are still getting paid) coaches just dont leave, they all have agents and there is some buyout package in the deal
On Franklin's firing, all accounts have it that Tubb's gave him full support and control, Franklin did some royal hind-end chewing on the field, the other coaches reared up with Tubb's (privately), and Tubb's showed Franklin the door(publicly).
Those stat's came from the NCAA. Saban's contracts have a lot of unseen incentives and perks the same as tubbie. Tubs shouldnt let the other coaches dictate how he runs his program. How can you expect a OC to have any sucess in 6 games? Did you forget how the offense looked in last years bowl game when he hade better players? Tubbs shouldnt have hired him if he wasnt going to give him a chance but as usual blamed somebody else.
The0wn4g3
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I can't say if the "Franklin practice explosion" really happened or not, though it seems it did. Whether he was a great OC or not, he should be fired for getting that personal with the players. (assuming the rumors are true) I'm fine with a coach getting upset to force players to practice harder, but that doesn't sound like what his goal was at all.
Are you anti-Auburn, or just anti-Tubs ?
Franklin had his chance, and the offensive style he ran against Clemson was not the offense he's running now. By his 5 game, the defense had scored as many points as the offense. That's ridiculous.
Anyway, one thing is for sure, if Tubs doesn't come up with a good OC this time around, he'll probably find the door pretty quick.
Are you anti-Auburn, or just anti-Tubs ?
Franklin had his chance, and the offensive style he ran against Clemson was not the offense he's running now. By his 5 game, the defense had scored as many points as the offense. That's ridiculous.
Anyway, one thing is for sure, if Tubs doesn't come up with a good OC this time around, he'll probably find the door pretty quick.
Neither but is it franklin's fault either qb can hit a 10 yard pass?
Franklin had the guts to be interviewed by Finebaum and told his story. Tubbs give him the reigns to the offense and the other coaches didnt like it. Yes he got in some players faces but they werent man enough to take it.
The0wn4g3
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Yea, maybe they weren't man enough to take it, but Burns proved he can throw better than Todd in the Ole Miss game. No doubt in my mind.
I don't know how much of an affect the other coaches had on the disappointing offense that Franklin was in charge of, but it doesn't really matter. They should have stop boo-hooing over stupid things and cooperated with Franklin completely. I think we can both agree on that.
I don't know how much of an affect the other coaches had on the disappointing offense that Franklin was in charge of, but it doesn't really matter. They should have stop boo-hooing over stupid things and cooperated with Franklin completely. I think we can both agree on that.
faulkincanyon
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Tech was victorious once again!!! Next is OU which will be tough playing there..we'll see what happens
timrandlerv10
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so how'd everybody's team do?
AppState beat UT-'Nooga, 49-7, but...we benched our quarterback for the second half. Our coach, apparently, got a lot of bad press for hanging 70 on Wofford last week (who was ranked #3 for FCS). He put in the second string offense for the 4th quarter, but they kept playing. So today he benched the 1st string after a half.
Here's my football beef: that's carp! those kids work hard, practice, do all the right things, then dont get to play? the quarterback is likely to set some NCAA records this year, and he has (at least!) 2 more games this year...but the coach benched him for 30 minutes today--lets say thats 6-8 drives, maybe he runs for 75 yards and throws for another 100??
lots of people drove lots of miles to not see anybody the second half. a running back's family had the row (yes, the whole row) behind us. he didn't play in the second half!
at least in 'Nooga, gas was $1.98!!!
AppState beat UT-'Nooga, 49-7, but...we benched our quarterback for the second half. Our coach, apparently, got a lot of bad press for hanging 70 on Wofford last week (who was ranked #3 for FCS). He put in the second string offense for the 4th quarter, but they kept playing. So today he benched the 1st string after a half.
Here's my football beef: that's carp! those kids work hard, practice, do all the right things, then dont get to play? the quarterback is likely to set some NCAA records this year, and he has (at least!) 2 more games this year...but the coach benched him for 30 minutes today--lets say thats 6-8 drives, maybe he runs for 75 yards and throws for another 100??
lots of people drove lots of miles to not see anybody the second half. a running back's family had the row (yes, the whole row) behind us. he didn't play in the second half!
at least in 'Nooga, gas was $1.98!!!
Alabama pulled out a hard fought one last night, JPW has earned my respect. He played well, showed some attitude, and threw the ball well.
Good job Bama, kinda proud of you.
OH, btw my "average at best" DAWGS, squeaked by the almighty powerhouse Kentucky Mildcats, and Auburn got past a "really Really tough" whoever it was they played. "Loose the Pigeons"
Good job Bama, kinda proud of you.
OH, btw my "average at best" DAWGS, squeaked by the almighty powerhouse Kentucky Mildcats, and Auburn got past a "really Really tough" whoever it was they played. "Loose the Pigeons"
The0wn4g3
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Kody Burns is a beast. I have no idea why they aren't utilizing him like they did in the 4th quarter this weekend. 158 rushing yards, average of 12.2 per carry. Crazy.
Caudle looks like he's got talent. Very calm in the pocket, and very smart. Smith has a lot of potentially, too. I'd say he's better than Lester already.
I just hope AU doesn't look completely retarded against Georgia like they did the first half against UTM...
Caudle looks like he's got talent. Very calm in the pocket, and very smart. Smith has a lot of potentially, too. I'd say he's better than Lester already.
I just hope AU doesn't look completely retarded against Georgia like they did the first half against UTM...
OceanDweller
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Auburns recruting is horrific for the south east. They don't have a top 100 player for 09 so far according to rivals.com while Alabama has eight and the # 2 in the nation running back and # 6 QB from Mobile. Auburn is on the verge of self destruction, just like Tennessee and I will be surprised if they win either game vs Georgia or Alabama. You sound like a bitter Auburn fan. You had your fun a couple of years ago when Alabama was on probation and going through multiple coaching changes. I am glad they are paying Saban a wicked amount of cash, he deserves it. He is constantly talking at high schools all over the southeast. He has made 10X what he was paid in a year and a half, I would gesture to say his first A day game, "being free and generating 50 thousand extra people", would easily cover his salary for a couple of years. If your wondering like I am sure you are how that computes think about 50 thousand more people eating, getting gas, and staying in Tuscaloosa, not to mention alcohol sales. There are very few coaches in this entire country that are hurting for money.
Wasn't Auburn preseason top 10? What the hell happened? Common and take the losses like a man-
OceanDweller
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Well I guess you didn't account for the fact that we were on PROBATION DURING A MAJORITY OF THOSE YEARS. I figured I would caps it for you. Auburn got Jipped out of the 2004 NC game.
Worried about the next 10 years of Alabama Auburn games, you should be-
I didnt see this past weekend's game but wont argue that Burns could be more productive than Todd. Although you really dont want your starting QB having to rush for such yardage.
This weekend "imo" is probably a toss-up, on paper, GA should beat Auburn, but watching the Dawgs this year has been brutal. Pre-season #1 and a steady decline beginning with the first game of the year and it continues today. Remember Mark Richt was "our Nick Saban" hired from FSU to rebuild the program.
Georgia "should" win but I think they are ripe for the picking and would not be surprized to see Auburn upset them
