Found Some Interesting Information About Collecting in Florida

[liverock]

watch out!

watch out!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9940844#post9940844 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tperk9784
The are restricted not prohibited.

Designates porkfish and blue-legged or tri-color hermit crab as “restricted species”

I read this to mean:

Bag Limit: Aggregate bag limit of 20 species (in any combination), of the species included in the Marine Life rule as listed below. Of those 20 species, no more than 5 may be angelfish, and no more than 6 may be colonies of octocorals (each colony or part thereof is included in the aggregate bag limit). The bag limit for plants listed in this rule is 1 gallon.

This is the CORRECT information.....don't get caught without a license, or over the bag limit, as they will take you to the Key West jail, and it has no a/c...not a pleasant place!

They are VERY TOUGH in the Keys, and no excuse will keep you from being arrested, it is their JOB, and they do it well!

I have been stopped by five different enforcement agencies in ONE DAY, down there before!

Richard TBS
www.tbsaltwater.com

 

[chrisaggie]

If you read the last link it defines cobia, sea trout, snapper, etc as restricted species, but I know for a fact you can keep them as long as they are the correct size.

 

[coralfragger101]

I'm only telling you what FWC told me. End of story.

 

[coralfragger101]

So why don't they call the "restricted species permit" the "prohibited species permit" ?

 

[liverock]

Nope...

Nope...

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9940941#post9940941 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralfragger101
I got the Commercial License above and beyond the regular one so that I could collect more than the 20 bag limit. Basically thinking the same way you guys are thinking.

Sometime later I was told by an online friend that he just got popped with blue legs. I couldn't believe it either. That's when I went to FWC myself and found out that what I've stated above is true.

And you cannot get "the commercial" license, has been a moratorium on the for many years....is called a Marine Life endorsement.....the ONLY way to get one is to purchase one from somebody who has one and the run 50-100K depending IF you can find one as there are only about 79 full blown MLD "Marine life dive" permits in existence....

Richard TBS
www.tbsaltwater.com

 

[liverock]

RS

RS

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9940976#post9940976 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralfragger101
So why don't they call the "restricted species permit" the "prohibited species permit" ?

Restricted species is a designation for animal which are covered under the "restricted species" list......you MUST have a SPL"saltwater products license", with and "RS" endorsement AND an ML endorsement to exceed the recreational bag limit...for animals on that list....and there are 3 types of ML licenses

MLD full blown collect anything diving/ wading/snorkeling
MLB bycatch, as if on a shrimpboat and keep animals caught in the net, but you cannot dive snorkel with a MLB, you can walk the beach and collect with it.

MLC Marine life Curio.....for collecting RS shells...no diving/snorkeling

Confused?

Richard TBS
www.tbsaltwater.com

 

[coralfragger101]

That's not true Liverock. I had the commercial license. It's the restricted species permit that you are making reference to.

HOWEVER - I can end this here and now.

I just happened to get a call from FWC today concerning another issue and so I just called that number back and asked the guy directly.

You guys ARE correct and I WAS correct (with explaination).

When I went down that road I was looking to collect in order to sell and SELLING is what makes the difference. I got the answers I got from FWC because my intentions were to sell.

YOU CAN COLLECT THE BAG LIMIT OF BLUE LEGS FOR YOUR OWN USE.

If you intend to sell them to a friend or commercially then you will need the regular license, commercial saltwater products license as well as the restricted species permit.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[liverock]

rs

rs

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9940949#post9940949 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chrisaggie
If you read the last link it defines cobia, sea trout, snapper, etc as restricted species, but I know for a fact you can keep them as long as they are the correct size.

You can ONLY keep them IF you have an SPL license WITH a RS endorsement........you DO not need an ML endorsement for those fish...

Richard TBS
www.tbsaltwater.com

 

[liverock]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9941063#post9941063 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralfragger101
That's not true Liverock. I had the commercial license. It's the restricted species permit that you are making reference to.

HOWEVER - I can end this here and now.

I just happened to get a call from FWC today concerning another issue and so I just called that number back and asked the guy directly.

You guys ARE correct and I WAS correct (with explanation).

When I went down that road I was looking to collect in order to sell and SELLING is what makes the difference. I got the answers I got from FWC because my intentions were to sell.

YOU CAN COLLECT THE BAG LIMIT OF BLUE LEGS FOR YOUR OWN USE.

If you intend to sell them to a friend or commercially then you will need the regular license, commercial saltwater products license as well as the restricted species permit.

Sorry for the confusion.

No sorry not so...what "commercial" license do you have?

 

[liverock]

license

license

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9941063#post9941063 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralfragger101
That's not true Liverock. I had the commercial license. It's the restricted species permit that you are making reference to.

HOWEVER - I can end this here and now.

I just happened to get a call from FWC today concerning another issue and so I just called that number back and asked the guy directly.

You guys ARE correct and I WAS correct (with explaination).

When I went down that road I was looking to collect in order to sell and SELLING is what makes the difference. I got the answers I got from FWC because my intentions were to sell.

YOU CAN COLLECT THE BAG LIMIT OF BLUE LEGS FOR YOUR OWN USE.

If you intend to sell them to a friend or commercially then you will need the regular license, commercial saltwater products license as well as the restricted species permit.

Sorry for the confusion.

and in addition to sell you MUST have a Wholesale dealers permit, called a WD license, cost $350.00 to sell animals commercially...

Trust me, I know!

 

[chrisaggie]

Oh gee...this is too complicated now....the final judgement is that we CAN collect blue legs if we don't sell them.

 

[coralfragger101]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9941118#post9941118 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chrisaggie
Oh gee...this is too complicated now....the final judgement is that we CAN collect blue legs if we don't sell them.

YES you can as long as you don't collect over the bag limit


The commercial license is the commercial saltwater products license.

 

[liverock]

20 with license

20 with license

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9941118#post9941118 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chrisaggie
Oh gee...this is too complicated now....the final judgement is that we CAN collect blue legs if we don't sell them.

YES

you can have 20, IF you have a fishing license.....otherwise.

Cuffs!

Richard TBS
www.tbsaltwater.com

 

[liverock]

RS

RS

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9941147#post9941147 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralfragger101
YES you can as long as you don't collect over the bag limit


The commercial license is the commercial saltwater products license.

Yes that is an SPL..BUT you have NO RS endorsement, so you cannot collect anything that is on the RS list....

Richard TBS

 

[coralfragger101]

Ummm - that is what I was saying. That license is also expired. I didn't renew it because I couldn't get the RS permit.

 

[liverock]

crew shares

crew shares

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9941234#post9941234 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralfragger101
Ummm - that is what I was saying. That license is also expired. I didn't renew it because I couldn't get the RS permit.

Only way to get an RS endorsement is to qualify for it...which means you must have $5000.00 of sales of RS species, documented with Florida Trip Tckets to qualify...but if you cannot collect RS species without a RS endorsement, how do you get one?

Catch 22??

you have to work on a boat with an RS endorsement, and document with"crew shares" for yourself, and reach that $5000.00 mark in one year to get an RS, or your outta luck for that year..

Confused?
Richard TBS
www.tbsaltwater.com

 

[coralfragger101]

And that is why I couldn't get one and that is why I didn't renew my SPL.

It "was" going to be a little side business simply selling blue legs as I have a normal 60 hr/wk job.

Didn't work out that way. I'm actually glad this came out in the open because I just set up a new 150 gal and will need a clean up crew shortly.

 

[liverock]

license

license

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9941302#post9941302 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralfragger101
And that is why I couldn't get one and that is why I didn't renew my SPL.

It "was" going to be a little side business simply selling blue legs as I have a normal 60 hr/wk job.

Didn't work out that way. I'm actually glad this came out in the open because I just set up a new 150 gal and will need a clean up crew shortly.

Yea
what you had was basically, the same as a regular fishing license, as you have no endorsements......you got some bad info, and they got your $75!

Richard TBS
www.tbsaltwater.com

 

[coralfragger101]

Naw - only $50

 

[liverock]

$$$$

$$$$

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9941333#post9941333 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralfragger101
Naw - only $50

Don't feel bad, My SPL and endorsements is $475.00 a year....

plus the zillion other licenses I have to have!

Richard TBS
www.tbsaltwater.com