Frag Swap Preparations: Weather, Pests, Electric

DMBillies

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Hi everyone,

I just wanted to start some discussion to highlight the importance of sellers/vendors/buyers being prepared for the upcoming event. Please feel free to post anything you might think of that I haven't hit on that could help people prepare.

Thanks,
Brian

Temperature

The first is that the temperature will be extremely low on Saturday morning. The high on Saturday is 44F but the low on Friday night is 28F and they are expecting wind chills as low as -10F. What this means is that temperatures will VERY quickly get out of range if you don't make adequate preparations. In my experience at swaps (especially this one being in the winter time), temperature seems to be the number one stressor that corals face.

Things you can do to prevent temperature problems:

----Bring coolers for frag bags and pack frags for transportation to the swap in coolers.
----Even better would be to float frag bags in water with heaters and a little bit of circulation using a power inverter (particularly for those with longer rides). Just keep the heater with water flowing over it and off of the bags so you don't overheat the frags closest to it.
----If nothing else, large amounts of water lose heat a lot slower than a smaller amount, so pack your frags in more water than you really need.
----Heat packs or even microwaved bags of water can help keep the temperature up.
----Don't forget that the extra water you bring should stay as warm as possible so your heaters don't have to do as much work when you get to the swap and you can unpack frags sooner.
----Bring a lot of heaters and/or big ones and monitor temperature closely throughout the swap.
----Warm up your car before loading it. Between packing the car and then finally getting it heated up, your frags could end up being in 40F air for 30 minutes or more with no good way to replace the lost heat until you get to the swap.
----If you don't have your own set-up, find a buddy that is willing to float your frags (ones you are buying or selling) during the swap to keep the temperature more stable.
----Be certain to carefully temperature acclimate any corals you take home.

Pests

The ugly side of swapping is that often times pests are spread about hobbyists tanks. Pests can include anything from aiptasia, invasive algaes, acro-eating flatworms, monti-eating nudis, etc.

It is my belief that most hobbyists and industry vendors who are selling would not do so if they knew they had a pest, but there probably are some unscrupulous folks that would take the money. Either way, the burden of ensuring that your own tank remains pest free is on you.

Quaranting is always a good idea if you have the option. I would also recommend getting a commercially available dip (or making your own) and using it as insurance that nothing bads makes it to your tank. It should be noted that often times dips will not kill the eggs of some of the bad coral predators, so a combo of repeated dips and quarantine would be best. Always check the dip water after you have done a dip for pests (if you find them, don't put it in your tank) and visually inspect every frag for bad algae, anemones, and other things that may grow out of control in your tank if not "treated" up front. Remember that many pests can do an incredible amount of damage and/or can be really difficult to treat.

Taking a chance by putting even a really expensive coral in your tank that you think might have a pest will almost certainly cost you more in money/time than trashing the coral or running it in quarantine for a few weeks until you are in the clear.

I'm not bringing this up to scare people away, but you should be prepared. Kind of like teen pregnancy, this problem will not go away if we just ignore it :)

The link below is to some common coral pests. Please ask questions in this thread if you want more information about identifying/treating pests.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=903839&highlight=AEFW+picture+thread

Electric

This new location has more outlets and more breakers than our previous location, but we do need everyone to make sure to bring power cords and power strips to make sure you can supply power to your set-up.
 
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Awesome, awesome post, Brian. Especially with these temp swings coming up. The low tomorrow night is 3 degrees! :eek1:

Brandon
 
UndercontrolJ:

I would say just keep it simple... as this thread mentions, just bring a cooler and place your frags in it. :)

Brandon
 
Hey is there a microwave on prem? I'm bringing big insulated fish boxes, stuff will prob be stored in my car since I'm a buyer with no table, and I'd like to reheat hot water bags a couple of times. If no micro, I can bring one for all to benefit if there is a place to plug in- LMK.
 
Pre-heat your coolers too. Especially if you keep the cooler outside!

Fill the cooler half way with hot tap water before coming... dump it in the parking lot before entering. :)

Thats a trick I learned after I started brewing all-grain beer and the mash needed to sit at a certain temperature for an extended amount of time. If your cooler is cold, it will suck any warmth right out of anything you put in it.


-Ryan
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14156263#post14156263 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gflat65
What will the swap space be heated to overnight?

Gary, the space is maintained at 76 degrees 24/7 with the ability to change the temperature up or down by 2 degrees, so we can control it between 74 & 78 degrees, the rest is automated.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14156887#post14156887 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cczarnik
Hey is there a microwave on prem? I'm bringing big insulated fish boxes, stuff will prob be stored in my car since I'm a buyer with no table, and I'd like to reheat hot water bags a couple of times. If no micro, I can bring one for all to benefit if there is a place to plug in- LMK.

There is a microwave in the kitchen.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14157726#post14157726 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rsteagall
Thats a trick I learned after I started brewing all-grain beer and the mash needed to sit at a certain temperature for an extended amount of time. If your cooler is cold, it will suck any warmth right out of anything you put in it.[/B]

I took a class on all-grain and it is honestly what I'd like to get into, but that extra time mashing is just not something I'm crazy about facing... brewing a batch takes so much time as is.

Definitely a good point though... my coolers are normally in my garage or attic and that will make a big difference.
 
For those wanting to help coolers keep warm..get some of the hand/glove warmers at your local sporting goods store and pop them inside. they are cheap and can be very effective over 4 hours at keeping your coolers warm. Just don't overdo it or the frags will get too hot!.
 
For those wanting to help coolers keep warm..get some of the hand/glove warmers at your local sporting goods store and pop them inside. they are cheap and can be very effective over 4 hours at keeping your coolers warm. Just don't overdo it or the frags will get too hot!.

+1 Hot Hands are a cheap and effective insurance for transporting corals.

This thread should be a sticky!
 
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