frogspawn losing heads

[thatguy]

Over the last 3 days my two frogspawn have lost 3 heads and will have lost 2 more by tomorrow. A-0 Ni-0 Na-20 SG-1.025 My pH was low 7.9. I am going to use a buffer to raise it but I am worried about what issues that will cause.

Is there anything I can do to save at least a few of the heads?

Also, why would my hammer be fine?

This sucks. They were doing so well...

The only thing I have changed in the last 3 days was that I removed a fan that was blowing on the surface to keep the temp down.

 

[Shooter7]

I've had my frogspawn for 2 years, stressed it badly at the beginning with a couple of huge salinity swings, and it's been moved several times, but I've never had it lose heads. Only thing I can figure is that it is pretty unhappy where it is, perhaps due to not enough lighting or too much flow. And if the "Na" in your post is nitrates, would probably serve you well to do some water changes and get that down. Have you tried moving it to other areas of the tank?

Oh, and what IS the temp in your tank?

 

[saltyunderground]

Here are all factors that have bothered my FG:
Get the pH were it needs to be.
Then take a look at the flow and lights. Is it getting too much flow aimed at it? Have you changed the bulbs so it's getting to much light? My FG is very sensitive to a lot of light.

Check calcium levels to make sure they are okay. Frogspawn and hammers use a lot of calcium.

Finally do you have a fish that is spending a lot of time around the frogspawn? Maybe it's being bothered by a fish.

 

[thatguy]

The NA is due to a filter pad, changed it last night and did a small water change after.

The temp is in the range of 77-79.

I moved both of them to spots with less flow but the other two heads fell off last night. I'm down to 4. They were both in those spots for more than a month with no issue and I haven't changed the flow.

My bulbs are due for replacement in mid-October.

Here's to hoping I have some left when I get home from work.

 

[MayoBoy]

Raise your temperature to 81-83, raise your pH and see what your calcium is (shoot for ~400).

 

[saltyunderground]

I just remembered something else: If the fg and hammer are close to each other (within 4 inches ro so) they may be fighting with each other. A month is not long for a fg to get established either. I had a small hammer near my fg for a week or so and then the fg killed the hammer. Chemical warfare.

 

[Chelsey]

I've had frogspawn and a bubble lose their heads. Frogspawn heads started to regrow a skeleton (I think anyway...) and then when I moved everything to Columbia they decided they didn't feel like making the move and bleached to the point of no return. The bubble has been eating well and will likely be fine.

 

[thatguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8199228#post8199228 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chelsey
I've had frogspawn and a bubble lose their heads. Frogspawn heads started to regrow a skeleton (I think anyway...)

In that case I will try to get the loose heads to attach to something.

If it doesn't work I will be in the market for some green with pink/purple tips and purple/pink with green tips.... after I get my water fixed.

 

[Shooter7]

Well, if the rest of your frogspawns are still hanging in there, you could bring them over to my place to hold for you while you work with your water if you want. I'm nearby to you.

 

[inwall75]

Polyp bailout isn't necessarily the end of the world. Just find the polyps.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-05/nftt/index.php

 

[thatguy]

I am down to 3 but they seem very well attached. I have found 3 of the lost heads and a peice of encrusting montipora that I thought was lost.

The heads are all stuffed in places to see if I can get them to grow. One of them is already extended and looks pretty good. We shall see about the others. I will keep everyone up-to-date on the frogspawn regrowth experiment.


Also, in searching my tank I have discovered that I have WAY TOO MUCH in this tank. My rock needs to be redone as well. I should soon have some frags of zoas, gsp, and of course the rare Kenya tree. There might be more but I'm only on my first cup of coffee.

 

[Shooter7]

While that is a warm and fuzzy story of coral survival, on the other hand it raises a lot of questions for me. She claims that "nothing she could test for was amiss" (we don't know exactly what she DID test for, or what the results were for that matter) and that she could find no other reason for the problem. However, in reading the whole article, she reports having the initial infection on the coral itself, she talks about having to clean algae off of the box she was trying to keep the polyps in at first when they separated, and then she later talked of having to pick and suction bryopsis and cyano off of the coral skeleton to keep the last bud on it alive. Seems like if you're having that much trouble with so many algaes and infections that something isn't quite right with your tank. And this is the reason why I mentioned before that I feel that something is making it very unhappy in your tank and it's going to the extreme to try and find a better place to be. As I said, try different locations in the tank with different light availability and different exposure to flow, along with reducing the nitrates and measuring the other parameters to see that everything is in line.

The offer still stands to coral-sit all or part of them if you would like. I'll be out til later this afternoon.

 

[violaceous]

Let me know if I can help. Sorry to hear about the troubles. I have some extra tanks setup if you need temporary housing.




PS: Sorry I forgot all about the RO water! Let me know if you need another 5gs and when you want to drop by.