From chaeto refugium to Algae turf scrubber! Anyone?

natural sunlight is fine as long as it's direct for a very long period and intense enough. Unless you live in a climate that allows you to put one outside and you don't have cloudy days, forget it. If you're trying to save $$ just do LED, it's the best.
 
not feeding enough was probably the issue. LPS and softies like 'dirtier' water. I have a whole mixed bag in the tank I run the scrubber on. So far I have found that hammers, frogspawns, and dendros and for some reason ORA Green Birdsnest seem to retract toward the end of the algae growth period. However acans, cabbage leather, toadstools, colt, red cap, tri-color valida, war coral, candy cane, yellow polyps, ricordea, green digitata, trumpet, anemones, and especially mushrooms love the tank. Waving hand and xenia grow like nuts. Zoas seem to be hit or miss. I have one colony that has completely covered a large rock, and 3 others either slowly growing or holding their own, and one more that is just hanging on.

your observation about 'too clean' could be an effect of the screen being oversized in relation to your feeding. If you went be the old sizing requirement (tank size) instead of the new ones (based on feeding) your algae would turn yellow on the screen after it pulled all the N and P out, and yellow algae does not filter as well (although it still filters, it's just spread out over too large of an area so it's 'choked off'). This actually may be what happened to my tank, because that's where I'm at right now (yellow growth) and I'm getting ready to replace the oversized scrubber & screen with one appropriately sized for the feeding.

I also have noticed that since there is not a lot of algae in the tank to feed on, the reliance on a CUC seems to be less necessary. I try to focus on substrate dwellers and small 'nook and crannie' snails, and much less on the plowing Turbo snails as there just isn't a need for the size of crew that most suggest. I think some would recommend a CUC for a 144 of something like 300 snails and hermits and I bet I have 20 all together (and no algae problem in the tank). granted I'm planning on adding more, but not a significant amount.

I had the same issue. I went with the old requirements that went by tank size. I went from a thriving reef with insane growth to a coral graveyard. I didn't react fast enough and lost everything, always checked parameters and they were perfect.
 
The accounts of losing corals from ATS are interesting. I wonder why people aren't losing corals in ULN systems...biopellets, heavy skimming, carbon dosing etc.

There must be another mechanism at work here.
 
The accounts of losing corals from ATS are interesting. I wonder why people aren't losing corals in ULN systems...biopellets, heavy skimming, carbon dosing etc.

There must be another mechanism at work here.

I've gone with an undersized ATS combined with Cheato on my 90. The Algae definitely isn't gone from the main system and both Cheato and Xenia are thriving. My livestock is a little ridiculous, topped off with 2 x 4" Tangs. I've turned off my protein Skimmer. Nitrates are bouncing between .5 and 2.5 depending on how much I feed. SPS growth is pretty good. Softies and LPS not so much.
 
Seems pretty simple. I can tell the difference in color of water taken from 3 different tanks when I put the water samples into urine sample cups and place them side-by-side of a while paper towel. No reason I can think of that this would not work for SW.
 
Problem with ATS is the same as ULNS, tank is to clean, sometimes even more clean than it needs to be, i have this problem in my tank i use prodibio, and a lot of corals didn't like it, now i'm trying the ATS to keep cost down.

What i'm doing is feeding corals at night, i set the feeding mode in my controller to turn of some powerheads and my skimmer for 4 hrs, this give the corals time to grab some food and make the tank better suited for all corals.
 
i set the feeding mode in my controller to turn of some powerheads and my skimmer for 4 hrs, this give the corals time to grab some food

I was always thinking that powerheads are here to HELP deliver food to corals.
 
Was thinking of going to one was doing some reading and some people say that when they clean the scrubber they feed some back in the main tank. anyone know a reason why?
 
Was thinking of going to one was doing some reading and some people say that when they clean the scrubber they feed some back in the main tank. anyone know a reason why?

They are talking about either letting pods escape back into their tank

or feeding their fish.



There is no reason at all to put any back in your tank.
 
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