FS: aquacultured frags

[Unarce]

Hi everyone,

I've decided to stick with a tank-cultured-corals-only theme with the new tank, and would like to offer two rare aquacultured frags.

Both frags are just over 2" and fully encrusted.

The first has 2 branches, and is on a ceramic plug: $45

This one is slightly larger with 4 branches, and is on a sizable piece of rubble: $55

I've had them at the bottom for several weeks now, so they only have the dark purple base with some green corallites, now.

It's actually a tri-color that looked like this when I had it up high:

David (duec22) can attest to the coloration.

Best regards,

Karl

 

[fragaholic]

I would love one but im broke Very very pretty piece!

One stupid question tho, whats the difference between aquacultured and tank cultured? I thought there was only wild then aquacultured(tank raised). I must have it wrong

 

[Justin74]

Tank cultured is aquacultered, maricultured is frags grown usually in a accessibly harvestable lagoons or designated areas, and wild is plain :wildone:

-Justin

 

[Unarce]

Some places use it incorrectly. Technically, this piece was maricultured, but is advertised as aquaculture. I just assume now that most of what we see as aquacultured, was actually maricultured.

It's not entirely misleading that they refer to it as aquaculture, since it's still a controlled environment. They raise pieces by the thousands in steel cages in the ocean.

This piece arrived, encrusted to a large concrete plug. The plug had rust markings underneath. This lead me to believe it was raised in a growers steel cage near the shore.

 

[Justin74]

Ya, actually aquaculture is an all ecompasing term, while mariculture is more specific.

Great piece Karl, it has that prominant *edit*er,lower lip(had AC/DC's stiff upper lip in my head LOL) with its radial coralites, find an ID on it yet?

-Justin

 

[fragaholic]

Makes a lot of sense. Thanks for clearing that up!

 

[Unarce]

$45 piece is PENDING

 

[GreshamH]

Aquacultured is not an all emcompassing term, it is anything raised in tanks (and can't be applied to anything grown in the ocean), while mariculture is anything raised in the ocean. It's very black and white, it's the people that miss use it, that see color, rather then black and white There's no gray area, just plain improper usage :lol:

 

[Unarce]

That's how I feel. I just didn't want to accuse those guys for doing it:lol: You're the man, Gresh!

 

[Justin74]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7703515#post7703515 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GreshamH
Aquacultured is not an all emcompassing term, it is anything raised in tanks (and can't be applied to anything grown in the ocean)

Totally disagree with you on that. By definition,it's indeed all encompasing:

http://www.answers.com/aquaculture&r=67

Even just the word itself implies this; aqua(water,whether fresh or salt) culture(to farm, or raise), while mariculture indeed is more specific marine(ocean)culture. Apparently aquaculture was being practiced back to 1000 BC. And you know they didnt have tanks back then.

-Justin

 

[Justin74]

Im totally surprised you said that Gresham, considering you are an aquaculturist yourself!:lol:

Btw, sounds like you guys are referring to something I missed out on, care to enlighten?

-Justin

 

[Unarce]

I was agreeing to the misuse of the term, but do believe that it's all encompassing in general.

Specific to the hobby, mariculture corals are raised in a controlled area with natural sunlight and seawater. Whereas, aquaculture corals are raised under artificial light and saltwater.

Do I think everything labeled aquacultured that we see from vendors and LFS were raised by the hobby's definition above...no.

How often do we see the mariculture label?

 

[duec22]

I tend to keep the two seperate simply for ease of knowing the conditions that a coral comes from. To me refering to maricultured corals as aquacultured makes things far too confusing. I like to think of aquacultured more along the lines of "aquarist-cultured" rather than "aqua-culture".

 

[Justin74]

How often do we see the mariculture label?

I know what you guys meant and whole hearetedly agree with you

This is a great discussion Id love to have with you 2 especially because of your combined experience, but I think Im imposing on your thread

How bout them frags? They all gone yet?

-Justin

 

[Unarce]

I'm merely a hobbyist. Gresh would know far more than me, since he's more involved with the industry

I forgot to answer you earlier question, Justin. When I first got the piece, it was ID'd as an A. Exquisita. The braches are pretty thick on this piece compared to the one described on AIMS.

I've only seen one other person locally, that was able to keep this piece alive. Some of this piece was also distributed to less than a handful of others in the East and Midwest.

 

[Justin74]

Hey thats cool! I think you just helped me ID one that I have that looks just like it! Not that one you and I were discussing ealier, but I have one that has that kiss of green on some axial and radial coralites(which is getting more noticable by the month) and its greyish-lavenderish axial blue tips with that stiff lower lip It has bright green polyps along its purplish brown base.

And with that one, ya Im not having an easy time coloring it up as well. Kind of a slow process it seems but colors up by the month!

-Justin

 

[GreshamH]

Earthen ponds are lumped in with "tanks" when applying the term AC, so the BC date seems right to me

I'm suprised you used answer.com to rebuttle this. Try getting other answers from them for your aquarium, I'm sure the advice will work out :lol:

 

[MelodyCorals]

Just my 2 cents on the aquaculture topic. In the hobby, I have always considered the definition to be as Justin describes it - and it would appear that many other "sources" online seem to agree that aquaculture is the generic for farming under controlled conditions of any kind:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaculture

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...aculture&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

I would definitely agree with Gresham though that many sources online may not be the best. Is there another source that is better for these kinds of definitions? Many are too generic of a definition like this one:

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Aquaculture

-- Josh

 

[Justin74]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7707693#post7707693 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GreshamH
Earthen ponds are lumped in with "tanks" when applying the term AC, so the BC date seems right to me

I'm suprised you used answer.com to rebuttle this. ....

Would the United States National Aquaculture act give a better definition? If so: The National Aquaculture Act of 1980 defines aquaculture as "the propagation and rearing of aquatic species in controlled or selected environments, including ocean ranching."

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7707693#post7707693 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GreshamH
Try getting other answers from them for your aquarium, I'm sure the advice will work out :lol:

Am I already getting flamed?Ahh, nothing like a good RC flame to start your day.....

-Justin

 

[GreshamH]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7708806#post7708806 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Justin74
Would the United States National Aquaculture act give a better definition? If so: The National Aquaculture Act of 1980 defines aquaculture as "the propagation and rearing of aquatic species in controlled or selected environments, including ocean ranching."



Am I already getting flamed?Ahh, nothing like a good RC flame to start your day.....

-Justin

Ah man, I wasn't trying to flame you