kdblove_99
New member
Well i need to try and see if this is the guy making me not have PE.
$25
$25
FS:Flame Angel
- Thread starter kdblove_99
- Start date
kdblove_99
New member
Pm replied
kdblove_99
New member
Will put you in line Dave.
might have a Flame hawk also think he might be perching on my SPS also
I really like this guy. he will be $30
might have a Flame hawk also think he might be perching on my SPS also
I really like this guy. he will be $30
dots
Premium Member
Do you have PE at night?
I am am suspect to think high light is a potential, as well as too much flow. Afterall, if specie like milli and prostrata seem to have more PE with more flow, there should be specie that it inhibits.
See surface area in this article, it sparked my curosity. (By now you can probably tell what I was reading and where tonight)
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2006/6/aafeature2/view
This a begs the questions: Is PE a good thing, is it a bad thing?
Though aetheticaly pleasing, in which I try to obtain as well, to understand how to achieve it we need first to understand WHY it is happening, which seems less apt to hair pulling than spending time chasing a really cool fish to take out that adds more to the tank anyway. Right?
There are some who believe the bubble tips of a BTA are signs of stress, which explains why they disappear over time in captivity. As well, the over inflation of an anenome could be a sign of malnutrition as it is attempting to increase its surface area for light collection. These also historically have been coveted signs of "good health" that we could be incorrect on.
Some of my PE is great, other completly suck, and I think falling out of the corralite PE is harder to achieve on all your piecies during daylight hours that it is to have great coloration, which we know is hard to achieve sometimes as is.
If you like your fish, don't get rid of it......I don't think I would give up my Potters Angel for anymore PE. Just comming to terms with it I suppose, and letting you know that your not alone in these SPS struggles.
I am am suspect to think high light is a potential, as well as too much flow. Afterall, if specie like milli and prostrata seem to have more PE with more flow, there should be specie that it inhibits.
See surface area in this article, it sparked my curosity. (By now you can probably tell what I was reading and where tonight)
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2006/6/aafeature2/view
This a begs the questions: Is PE a good thing, is it a bad thing?
Though aetheticaly pleasing, in which I try to obtain as well, to understand how to achieve it we need first to understand WHY it is happening, which seems less apt to hair pulling than spending time chasing a really cool fish to take out that adds more to the tank anyway. Right?
There are some who believe the bubble tips of a BTA are signs of stress, which explains why they disappear over time in captivity. As well, the over inflation of an anenome could be a sign of malnutrition as it is attempting to increase its surface area for light collection. These also historically have been coveted signs of "good health" that we could be incorrect on.
Some of my PE is great, other completly suck, and I think falling out of the corralite PE is harder to achieve on all your piecies during daylight hours that it is to have great coloration, which we know is hard to achieve sometimes as is.
If you like your fish, don't get rid of it......I don't think I would give up my Potters Angel for anymore PE. Just comming to terms with it I suppose, and letting you know that your not alone in these SPS struggles.
Last edited:
kdblove_99
New member
Yeah. I do have PE at night. Too much flow ey?
dots
Premium Member
Could be a lot of things. I am sure you realize there are a lot of polyps that are white, correct? Those are the specie that are thought primarily feed at night. There have even been some to come in with white polyps only to change as decribed on Tyree's site discussing the Becker Tort. This eludes to not all are day feeders during the day, and that they can adapt. I think it was mentioned that it could take up to 9 months for a pieces to adapt to your tank conditions. Feeding daily during those daylight hours can "train" polyps to encourage extention I have heard as well.
I am not saying its flow but I lowered mine recently and noticed when I move pieces from one flow area to another PE is effected.
I consider PE extension to be the SPS that is soooo relaxed its taken off its shoes and laid back in the lazy boy recliner. Just because its not this way, may not be its totaly stressed out, just not ready to commit to staying long and is keeping its shoes on.
Light I believe plays more of a role in my tank. A major observation to this is on the lit side of my Oregon Tort, no PE.....on the shady side, plenty. But that could be because of reduced flow.
Chemical warfare? We never seem to mention that.
I don't know and am not claiming to know what is going on, just throwin it out there to spark others observations, (mainly yours), and insights to perhaps find out why or those who do what doesn't effect PE. I do think the odds are in favor of one of those two or another parameter such as P04, Nitrate, or even a reaction from using GFO more likely than a single source such as a fish. I think a tank with loads of PE and a Parrot fish could be possible still to have PE despite the fish.
I have always doubted Angels or Mythrax can effect a whole colony or system on some nipping, unless of course they are starving and just going to town, but that would be obvious. I have both and watch both like a hawk and never see them bother a coral, especially since I do have polyp falling out of the coralites at night with a giant mithrax roaming around.
I question everything now since my problems last summer, especially when it sounds like you don't want to give up the fish and know it would suck if you did and it wasn't the cause.
Speaking of PE, do you want to know what I find intesting. After a Redbug Interceptor treatment, all corals in the tank....not just those that had redbugs on them had noticable and increased PE, only to subside a few days later. What could be going on there?
I am not saying its flow but I lowered mine recently and noticed when I move pieces from one flow area to another PE is effected.
I consider PE extension to be the SPS that is soooo relaxed its taken off its shoes and laid back in the lazy boy recliner. Just because its not this way, may not be its totaly stressed out, just not ready to commit to staying long and is keeping its shoes on.
Light I believe plays more of a role in my tank. A major observation to this is on the lit side of my Oregon Tort, no PE.....on the shady side, plenty. But that could be because of reduced flow.
Chemical warfare? We never seem to mention that.
I don't know and am not claiming to know what is going on, just throwin it out there to spark others observations, (mainly yours), and insights to perhaps find out why or those who do what doesn't effect PE. I do think the odds are in favor of one of those two or another parameter such as P04, Nitrate, or even a reaction from using GFO more likely than a single source such as a fish. I think a tank with loads of PE and a Parrot fish could be possible still to have PE despite the fish.
I have always doubted Angels or Mythrax can effect a whole colony or system on some nipping, unless of course they are starving and just going to town, but that would be obvious. I have both and watch both like a hawk and never see them bother a coral, especially since I do have polyp falling out of the coralites at night with a giant mithrax roaming around.
I question everything now since my problems last summer, especially when it sounds like you don't want to give up the fish and know it would suck if you did and it wasn't the cause.
Speaking of PE, do you want to know what I find intesting. After a Redbug Interceptor treatment, all corals in the tank....not just those that had redbugs on them had noticable and increased PE, only to subside a few days later. What could be going on there?
Last edited:
kdblove_99
New member
No3 and Po4 are both very decent no3 was 5 and po4 i believe was 0.03? its the 2nd color on the salifert test kit not completely white but just a very slight blue.
soon as i got home tonight the flame hawk was perched on my ORA german blue digi
soon as i got home tonight the flame hawk was perched on my ORA german blue digi
kdblove_99
New member
thats ittcoral
polyp extention
polyp extention
kdblove_99
New member
who has a hanna?
no1fishman
New member
is the flame available?
Similar threads
