Game Over for me. Ich

[JamesFWB]

FEED! as long as they are eating they will make it.

 

[reefbroao]

yes they are I just didn't know my gramma was infected he hides quite a lot of course. but he looks the worst of any. The tang looks to be fighting it off well he already looks better today and hes very active.

 

[Sk8r]

If you haven't added fish in the last 72 days, and your fish are all asymptomatic, likelihood is that you don't have ich in your system. The longer you go without adding a fish, the likelihood rises. Ich is an animal. It has a very brief life cycle, and it dies in the act of reproducing or trying to reproduce. If there is a success, there is more ich, but if there is a failure, that particular ich just dies, and that's the end of that particular animal. There is, to my knowledge, no do-over for a failed ich on a reproductive bent: it's already going to die, win or lose.
In your situation, if you truly can't withdraw fish to treat, the only thing to do is feed well, use something like Selcon (vitamins and omega-3) and heck, feed them fresh chopped garlic. Does NOT cure ich. But I've known vegetarian fishes to like it and go after it even if they're rejecting Nori, and it stimulates appetite.
Ultimately, if you do lose all fish, you'll have saved your tank. 72 days after last appearance of ich on a fish in the tank, it's likely ich-free, and you can start from there by putting a fish into a quarantine/antiparasite procedure.

 

[whosurcaddie]

I feed the just what you stated Sk8er. Selcon and garlic but I use garlic extreme from kent. One drop per feeding is all you need.

 

[Sk8r]

And if it truly is microbubbles or tank dust---take this as a warning and yes! QT new fish.

 

[reefbroao]

Yes I normally do but I made the mistake of trusting that since this fish was out of an existing tank for a while and had previously been qt'd that it would be okay. But it is definitely ich.

 

[jrp1588]

Yes I normally do but I made the mistake of trusting that since this fish was out of an existing tank for a while and had previously been qt'd that it would be okay. But it is definitely ich.

Quarantine every single fish and treat it as if it's infected, or don't qt at all. All or nothing here unfortunately. It's too easy for a healthy looking fish to slip through otherwise.

 

[reefbroao]

It seems like the ich is losing so that's good news.

 

[CStrickland]

It seems like the ich is losing so that's good news.

:thumbsup:
But remember that it has a few diff stages. The one that is visible on the fish only lasts so long, then it goes to ground for a while. This is why a lot of people fall for sham cures like garlic and potions from the lfs - it gets bad enough to be noticeable, they crank a snake oil in the tank, and it subsides... Yay snake oil!
That's not a cure, but I'm supes happy that your fish are feeling better

 

[reefbroao]

Yeah it was only one day really of showing symptoms. Didn't make it to the lfs for any garlic or anything, so they must have shaken it off?