garlic, possible to over do it?

[rizkeeper]

how often do you soak your food or nori in garlic? daily? once a week? every food that goes in the tank?

is it ok to soak the same food in garlic and zoe?

 

[Andrew]

Never

Garlic does more bad then good:

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php

 

[roons]

i soak every bit of food that goes in aside ffrom my nori clip, in 5 drops of garlic juice and marine-c , and 3 drops of selcon.............i quarantine nothing, i saw ich in the early days of my tank, ive seen nothing for over a year, and i have a powder blue....................is it because of this? im not sure but its working so im not changing anything

 

[00nothing]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6554107#post6554107 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Andrew
Never

Garlic does more bad then good:

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php

hey andrew where in that entire article did u read that garlic does bad cause either i am blind or u misread it

I am a firm believer in garlic but not until recently i always considered it snake oil but my blue throat and kole tagg both were showing spots of ich i immediatly started adding garlic extract and within a week no signs were left and no re-occurence of ich since

 

[rizkeeper]

00nothing, how often do you use it?

 

[Andrew]

Garlic can cause skin diseases on fish if you feed too much or too often. My kole tang got it.

 

[dustin Combs]

Carbon causes disease too!! Choose your death

 

[Ti]

Can't complain about garlic.

 

[roons]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6554638#post6554638 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Andrew
Garlic can cause skin diseases on fish if you feed too much or too often. My kole tang got it.

if you have a way to chase that skin disease back to garlic , your a better man than i

 

[00nothing]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6554547#post6554547 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rizkeeper
00nothing, how often do you use it?

i only use it when the fish are showing signs of illness to boost the immune sytem

 

[Pandora]

Andrew, where are you getting that garlic causes skin disease from that article? If you do a search for "skin" it's not even used there.

Also, the conclusion of that article is not "it does more harm than good". It is "use at your own risk, the controlled studies are still out, and until then, there is only anecdotal evidence, not yet scientifically proven against marine ich". There is evidence allicin has other effects on fish immunity, but the article is just arguing against the myth that its use against marine fish diseases has definitive proof yet.

 

[rizkeeper]

that was a long article and really didn't take a stand on anything....it was a waste!!

 

[Gobie]

I donââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t use garlic and have ich in my tank and it goes away by itself. If I would have used garlic and it went away, I may assume it was the garlic that did it. Having had ich introduced on several occasions in the past, clear up with out it or any other treatment, I would say it has to do more with, nutrition, having a healthy system and having healthy fish to start with. Garlic is just another tool to sell products.

 

[roons]

i use garlic juice from the grocery store , so im not sure what products your referring to........................

 

[mmd]

if you over do it with garlic just add a tad of olive oil, simmer for 45 minutes and serve over linguini

 

[pmac90]

well, in one of the first couple paragraphs it says this: "there are a number of hobbyists which have used garlic and suffered significant losses of fish as well."
i would be one of those hobbyists! my first setup i had added fish slowly and followed good practices but shortly after i was finished adding fish. a small outbreak of ich happened so, i went the garlic way. even when it went away i kept using it. i eventually lost all of my fish. reset the tank up, changed substrate, added live rock. i started this tank with garlic feedings. some fish were stressed from others and ich got out of control. keep in mind i was using garlic from the beginning. it only took 3 weeks to lose most of my fish this time. was it the garlic, don't know. i'll never use it again though. i'm leaning more towards the QT thing! i have 2 blue fins damsels and a purple tang left from the second setup... they've been doing fine with just flake food feeding... go figure.

just my.02

 

[Ti]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6564544#post6564544 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mmd
if you over do it with garlic just add a tad of olive oil, simmer for 45 minutes and serve over linguini

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