geothermal help

9 feet of PVC is probably a 300% safety factor; good work.

For a closed loop the Dart CRUSHES the Hammerhead! Check out the pump curves for yourself...

Sequence Dart
pump_mdm_sequence_reeflo_dartcurve.jpg


Sequence Hammerhead
pump_mdm_sequence_reeflo_hammerheadcurve.jpg
 
Oh hey, I remember reading this thread on the Large Tanks Forum! You did a heck of a nice job on that.
 
How do you figure that? At zero head the Dart is 3600gph and the Hammerhead is 6000gph.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7884879#post7884879 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ChemE
9 feet of PVC is probably a 300% safety factor; good work.

For a closed loop the Dart CRUSHES the Hammerhead! Check out the pump curves for yourself...

Sequence Dart
pump_mdm_sequence_reeflo_dartcurve.jpg


Sequence Hammerhead
pump_mdm_sequence_reeflo_hammerheadcurve.jpg
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7885662#post7885662 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aquaduck
How do you figure that? At zero head the Dart is 3600gph and the Hammerhead is 6000gph.

As my major professor always said "life is meaningless without per!"

Because at zero head the Dart is moving 3600 gph with 140 watts (25.71 g/h·w) while the Hammerhead can muster on 6000 gph with 370 watts (16.22 g/h·w)

Yeah the Hammerhead moves more water than the Dart but it also sucks on the wall socket like a leech.

For comparision purposes my Maxi-Stream 1200 spinning the Dumas 3004 (1.75" high pitch propeller) moves around 3,000 gph and draws 18 watts (166.7 g/h·w)
 
Alright, so I was able to dig down another foot deeper and the temp reading is at 75F....thats not much of a difference for another foot. Maybe I should try to just maintain my temp at 80F instead of 78F...Im gonna dig some more today and see if I can get the temp any lower... Im running out of places to throw the dirt....Also, I will be laying concrete over the geothermal area for my patio. I wonder if this will help keep the ground cooler.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7886664#post7886664 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ChemE
As my major professor always said "life is meaningless without per!"

Because at zero head the Dart is moving 3600 gph with 140 watts (25.71 g/h·w) while the Hammerhead can muster on 6000 gph with 370 watts (16.22 g/h·w)

Yeah the Hammerhead moves more water than the Dart but it also sucks on the wall socket like a leech.

For comparision purposes my Maxi-Stream 1200 spinning the Dumas 3004 (1.75" high pitch propeller) moves around 3,000 gph and draws 18 watts (166.7 g/h·w)

I might just be inclined to strap on some penductors to my plumbing and go back down to the dart...this electricity is killing me.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7894798#post7894798 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bobafet1
Alright, so I was able to dig down another foot deeper and the temp reading is at 75F....thats not much of a difference for another foot. Maybe I should try to just maintain my temp at 80F instead of 78F...Im gonna dig some more today and see if I can get the temp any lower... Im running out of places to throw the dirt....Also, I will be laying concrete over the geothermal area for my patio. I wonder if this will help keep the ground cooler.

So based on our limited data set, the ground temp is dropping around 2F/foot. Let me run some numbers and give you a few different scenarios. I'll assume this 2F/ft gradient for the calculations and perhaps you can add another data point or two if you find extra space to toss the soil.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7894841#post7894841 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ChemE
So based on our limited data set, the ground temp is dropping around 2F/foot. Let me run some numbers and give you a few different scenarios. I'll assume this 2F/ft gradient for the calculations and perhaps you can add another data point or two if you find extra space to toss the soil.
I will have the other figure for you tomorrow morning. Thanks.
 
Ok, so I dug another foot into the ground (5ft from the surface now) and measured the temp at 73F. The temp does appear to drop 2 degrees per foot.
 
Would it make a difference if the entire geothermal area will be covered in concrete?? Im hoping that will drop the temperature a bit more without having to dig another foot into the ground.
 
It probably will help some but I don't know by how much so I'm going to disregard it in my calculations.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7894818#post7894818 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bobafet1
I might just be inclined to strap on some penductors to my plumbing and go back down to the dart...this electricity is killing me.

Just so you know, you can't run a Dart with penductors. You'll kill the flow because the Dart is not pressure rated.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7886664#post7886664 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ChemE
As my major professor always said "life is meaningless without per!"

Because at zero head the Dart is moving 3600 gph with 140 watts (25.71 g/h·w) while the Hammerhead can muster on 6000 gph with 370 watts (16.22 g/h·w)

Yeah the Hammerhead moves more water than the Dart but it also sucks on the wall socket like a leech.

For comparision purposes my Maxi-Stream 1200 spinning the Dumas 3004 (1.75" high pitch propeller) moves around 3,000 gph and draws 18 watts (166.7 g/h·w)

Yeah, from a GPH/Watt the Dart does blow away the Hammerhead. I too have been impressed by the Maxijet mods. I'm thinking about getting rid of my closed loop. Now back to our regularly schedualled thread....
 
yeah, that maxi jet mod does sound cool...im a bit hesitant on having power heads in my tank though..i would hate to have to replace them when they crap out or adjust them every so often. I think Im just gonna get two darts and run them on a parallel set up...one will be on constantly and when the lights kick on the other will start as well...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7901064#post7901064 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ChemE
It probably will help some but I don't know by how much so I'm going to disregard it in my calculations.

any luck with the calculations? thanks
 
ok, its been some time but I didnt need to use the geothermal loop cause my fans have been doing a great job..but, now that the temp is hot the fans have been staying on all day and so Im revisiting the geothermal idea since I already installed the system. I set up the loop with a quiet one pump now and so Im not sure how long it would take to cool the water down..anyone have any info or advice?
 
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