Getting back into the hobby

[Elmareefer]

It’s been quite a while since I’ve been on here. 2007 I believe
My last tank was a 60 gallon with a sump. A lot has changed. I’m interested in not having a sump again but there seems to be a lot of choices out there. Looking at a 40 gallon and up tank mainly due to wanting the length over 30 inches.
IM seems to make good tanks but I do not want to have to buy the stand too

Are the AIO tanks really easier?

 

[griss]

It’s been quite a while since I’ve been on here. 2007 I believe
My last tank was a 60 gallon with a sump. A lot has changed. I’m interested in not having a sump again but there seems to be a lot of choices out there. Looking at a 40 gallon and up tank mainly due to wanting the length over 30 inches.
IM seems to make good tanks but I do not want to have to buy the stand too

Are the AIO tanks really easier?

I think it’s really personal preference. Many people have very successful AIO tanks.

I, personally, do not have any experience with them. I’ve always had a sump since my first fish only in the early 80’s and my first reef in 1990.

 

[Elmareefer]

Id like to buy an innovative marine tank but the 40 gallon looks to only come with the stand(which I don’t want)

Is that the only way they sell them?

 

[griss]

Id like to buy an innovative marine tank but the 40 gallon looks to only come with the stand(which I don’t want)

Is that the only way they sell them?

I don’t know the answer as I’ve never purchased from them. I would suggest email or call them to ask. I know most, if not all, tank manufacturers will not honor their warranty unless you use their stand.

 

[griss]

Just noticed you were last on here in 2007ish and you’re using a new login. If you recall your old login name, I’m sure @JohnL could recover that for you. If you wish.

 

[Reefing102]

Welcome back!

As @griss mentioned, many manufacturers will not honor any warranty claims unless you use their stand. That said, I believe the vast majority of AIO manufacturers will only sell with their stand.

A couple that don’t require a stand purchase (or at least my LFS doesn’t require the stand purchase) would be JBJ Rimless Flat Panel tanks and Planet Aquarium Tideline All In Ones. There’s likely many other lesser known brands out there but the big names (IM, Waterbox, RedSea, Cade, etc) will usually require the stand (I believe some of the smaller IM tanks don’t require the stand but I believe those are all less than 20 gallons or so).

 

[JohnL]

Just noticed you were last on here in 2007ish and you’re using a new login. If you recall your old login name, I’m sure @JohnL could recover that for you. If you wish.

Thanks George

 

[Elmareefer]

Welcome back!

As @griss mentioned, many manufacturers will not honor any warranty claims unless you use their stand. That said, I believe the vast majority of AIO manufacturers will only sell with their stand.

A couple that don’t require a stand purchase (or at least my LFS doesn’t require the stand purchase) would be JBJ Rimless Flat Panel tanks and Planet Aquarium Tideline All In Ones. There’s likely many other lesser known brands out there but the big names (IM, Waterbox, RedSea, Cade, etc) will usually require the stand (I believe some of the smaller IM tanks don’t require the stand but I believe those are all less than 20 gallons or so).

Are JBJ AIO tanks good? I’m looking at the 45