Getting Free Live Rock Bad Algae?s

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Friend is breaking down a tank and he is giving me 30lbs of lr. The rock is completely covered in hair algae. There are a few softies that I would like to save if I can. There is 7-10 Richordea(sp), couple kenya, and some polyps.

What do I need to do to remove all the hair algae? I do not have a tank to put the rock in yet. I was planning on putting it in a trashcan and going lights out for a few weeks. I also plan on scrubbing all the pieces that dont have coral attached. Will the coral live for two weeks without light?

His tank has extremely high nitrates. Do I need to worry about this when I get it?
 
Personally I would cook that LR. Try setting up a small tank if you can to at least try to save the corals it comes with
 
Cut the corals from the rock and glue them to some small piece of rock that you have already scrubbed and put those in your tank. Then just cook or clean the LR.
 
What do I need to do to remove all the hair algae? I do not have a tank to put the rock in yet. I was planning on putting it in a trashcan and going lights out for a few weeks. I also plan on scrubbing all the pieces that dont have coral attached. Will the coral live for two weeks without light?

His tank has extremely high nitrates. Do I need to worry about this when I get it?

I have a question b4 I give you my suggestion...my question is what isyour friend doing with the tank after it is broken down....I would offer hime some money for his tank if he is selling it....but if he is just breaking it down and putting it in his garage idk what to tell ya other then get something to keep the lr in and a light sufficiant enough to keep those corals alive and put a sea hare in with it to eat the algae it would be a complete waist to just kill all those corals. As far as the nitrates if ur not taking any of his water out of his tank you should be ok.....
 
Im going to try and remove all the corals and put them on frag plugs or hopefully be able to chip away the rock that they are on. I have a 40br that i will put them in until I get the other tank set up.

How long will the rock have to be in the trashcan for the algae to die off? Do I need to do any water changes or testing?

sjt he is keeping his tank and all equipment.
 
here is another vote to nuke that rock from orbit. i would totally clean it up over quite
a long period of time until i was satisfied it would not contaminate a tank with PO4 and
other organic material.

i think that is a huge mistake to start off a tank with such a crappy situation.


stealing this from another poster
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Originally posted by SeanT
Here are the "Rock Cooking" instructions:

The purpose of "cooking" your rocks is to have the bacteria consume all (or as much) organic material and PO4 stored on, and in, the rock as possible.

The new environment you are creating for your rock is to take it from an algal driven to a bacterial driven system.
In order to do this, the rock needs to be in total darkness to retard and eventually kill the algae's on the rock and to give the bacteria time to do the job.

So basically you need tubs to hold the rock.

Equipment needed.
1. Dedication.
2. Tubs to cook rock in. And an equal amount of tubs to hold the rock during waterchanges.
3. A few powerheads.
4. Plenty of buckets.
5. A smug feeling of superiority that you are taking it to "the next level."
6. Saltwater, enough made up to follow the instructions below and to replenish your tank after removing rocks.
Here are the steps:

1. Get into your head and accept the fact you will be making lots of salt water if you aren't lucky enough to have access to filtered NSW.
2. Explain to significant other what is going on so they don't flip out. This process can take up to 2 months. Prepare them in advance so he/she can mark it on the calendar and that they won't nag about it until that date arrives.
3. Setup a tub(s) where the rock is to be cooked. Garages are great for this.
4. Make up enough water to fill tub(s) about halfway and around 5-7 buckets about 60% full.
5. Remove all the rock you want to cook at this stage. (The rock can be removed piece by piece until you are done.) I suggest shutting off the circulation beforehand to minimize dust storms.
6. Take the first piece of rock and dunk it, swish it, very, very well in the first bucket. Then do it again in the 2nd bucket, then the third.
7. Place rock in the tub.
8. Repeat steps 6 & 7 to every piece of rock you want to cook at this time. The reason I suggested 5-7 buckets of water will be evident quickly...as the water quickly turns brown.
9. Place powerhead(s) in the tub and plug in. Position at least one powerhead so that it agitates the surface of the water pretty well. This is to keep the water oxygenated. You can use an air pump for additional oxygenation if you wish. Only one powerhead per tub is needed. Remember the powerheads main responsibility is the oxygenation of the water.
10. Cover the tub. Remember, we want TOTAL darkness.
11. Empty out buckets, restart circulation on main tank.
12. Wait.
13. During the first couple of weeks it is recommended to do a swishing and dunking of the rocks twice a week.
What this entails is to make up enough water to fill up those buckets and the tub the rock is in.
First, lay out your empty tub(s) and fill buckets the same as before.
Then, uncover tub with the rock in it. Take a rock and swish it in the tub it's in to knock any easy to get off junk.
Then, swish it thru the 3 buckets again, and place in the empty tub..
Repeat for all your rocks.
Then empty the tub that all the rocks were cooking in, take it outside and rinse it out with a hose.
Place tub back where it was, fill with new saltwater, add rocks and powerheads, and cover.
Wait again until the next water change.
You will be utterly amazed at how much sand, silt, detritus is at the bottom of the tub and every bucket. It is amazing.
At times the stench was so strong I gagged.

How it works:

Some FAQ's.
When re-introducing the rock to my tank, a month or two from now, should I do that in parts to help minimize any cycling effect(s)...if there are any?
I never have. Really after a very short while, the ammonium cycle has been established. That's not what you're worry about though, it's the stored phosphates and that you have to wait it out.
When they are producing very little detritus - you'll know - then I would use them all at once.

Would running Carbon filtration and/or a PO4 reducing media help/hurry/hinder the process?
I wouldn't fool with it. You don't want the detritus to sit there long enough to rot, release water soluble P again. You want to take it out while it's still locked up in that bacterial detritus.

And a few last minute tidbits I remembered.
Your coralline will die back, recede etc.
My thoughts on this are GREAT!
Now my rock is more porous for additional pods, mysids, worms etc.
Coralline will grow back.
Throughout this process the sponges, and pods on my rock have not died off.
Every time I do a water change they are there and plentiful.
 
+1 fcmatt..... i am in the process of cooking about 60lbs of rocks from a tank that had nitrates and phosphates through the roof. follow seant's instructions that fcmatt posted and you will be much happier in the long run.
 
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