Getting into photography and need advice

binaryterror

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Hey guys. My dad has this cheapy little Nikon camera. It is a smaller sized one. I use it all the time to take pics of my animals, and just everything. I went into this store and my dad said maybe I could get a nice camera for me if I pay for some of it. So now I ask you guys to point me in the right direction. I heard film cameras are better for beginners, is that true? I also see that the Canon Rebel XT is a popular choice. I am just looking for something that has obviously good picture quality, has pictures that I can show to people and they will be amazed at the color and quality, and is $500 or below. Thanks!
 
Hey guy.

Its hard to advise a young kid just starting out. It depends on what you want to do. You may be developing a hobby that lasts a lifetime, ot you may forget about it next week.

If all you want to do is take pictures, any ol camera will work. If film, I'd stick with 35 mm.

If you want to get seriously into the hobby, then you'll want an slr. If you want to start with film there I would look at E-bay for old used SLR camera's. For $500 you can probably get a Canon AE-1 on Ebay and a heck of alot of stuff for it for $500. The AE-1 lens doesn't fit modern cameras so you can get alot of nice AE1 lenses for a really cheap price.

If I had a kid who wanted to get into the hobby, I would get him a digital. A Rebel XT is going to cost more than your $500 budget but you'll save tons in film processing. Plus it gives you an opportunity to shoot tons of photos without worrying about cost and gives you instant feedback which speeds up your learning curve. Really good photos can be printed by a company online and can actually be cost comparible to printing them on your home printer.

You do need access to a computer and it should have a CD burner so you can save your photos and take them with you when you go to college and the parents throw you out of the house.

Good luck

Mike
 
For under $500 I would probably look for a nice point and shoot. The Rebel will be more than that and not too long after you get it you'll probably start wanting better/specialized lenses to get the kinds of pictures you want (DSLR photography is like reefkeeping, the $$$ can add up fast). I'm not up on the latest point and shoots, but http://www.dpreview.com is a great place where you can check out various models.

Probably the biggest advantage of a film SLR would be the initial cost of buying a body is much less than a DSLR, but those savings can quickly be eaten up by film and processing costs.

Digital photography, both DSLRs and Point and shoots, have some advantages for beginners such as you can take a lot of pictures and experiment with what works, what doesn't work and generally test features of the camera with no film or processing costs. If you don't like an image, you simply delete it. You also can get fast feedback on how image turn out by reviewing the picture and histogram on the cameras LCD and your PC. Also, when reviewing pictures on your pc you can review EXIF info to see what shot setting worked and didn't work in different situations.

Hope this helps. Best of luck to you.

Jim
 
MCary, sorry for repeating many of your points. That'll teach me to walk away from a half written reply then come back and post before checking for updates to the thread. :)
 
Yeah, I could definatly buy used. Also, is there any other digital that is the same price as the Rebel XT, but any better?

I was looking around and I found this deal here http://www.bestpricecameras.com/prodetails.asp?prodid=216234 Obviously it does not come with a lense which I find an almost good thing. This way I will be able to find a lense that is good for the kind of photos that I want to take rather than have to work with something I dont like. Its soo cheap anyways!
 
I would suggest browsing some camera forums for a used Rebel XT. The XT is really the volume camera that lowered prices enough to bring DSLRs to the masses. Start out with a basic 18-55 kit lens (~$50 used), or maybe a 50mm f1.8. If you get serious about it, then you can consider adding more/better lenses.
 
binaryterror,

Listen to Jim. NEVER buy anything from bestpricecameras. I'm pretty sure they're mafia, at the very least they're criminal.

You can check B&H camera or Adorama (adorama prices can be researched on Amazon.com) and actually Costco. They will have the best prices for these cameras. If for some reason you find a price that is considerably lower then suspect a scam. It may be a gray market or factory refurb or much worse.

Mike
 
Grey Market: Cameras sold in America with Japanese warranties. Read: No warranty here. It's a little cheaper, but far from worth it, in most cases.

I'd also recommend digital. It gives you so much more opportunity to learn from what you did, as well as shoot without reservation. When I started shooting, it was film, at a race track. I went through 7-12 rolls of film per night (at $6 per roll, plus $8 developing). A year and a half ago, I broke down and bought a DSLR, and the 35mm hasn't left the dark corners of my camera bag since.

I bought it because I was headed to Hawaii and knew that the cost of getting into the new camera (I spent about $2K after camera/lenses/bags/extras) would be exceeded by developing costs in a very short time. I ended up shooting 1300 shots in Hawaii in that ten days. By now, I've shot nearly 9,000 photos through it. I get instant feedback, and can adjust and re-shoot on the spot if I have any problems. I can also carry them over to my computer, and not lose any sharpness because it went to print first. The only time I've ever had film shots as sharp as my digital shots was when I shot with high end film, and paid to have them scanned by a $100,000 drum scanner, at $25 per scanned photo.

One other MAJOR consideration is that you're shooting your tank. If you realized how many bad shots happen in a reef tank.... oh man! I tried a couple rolls of film at my tank once, and will probably never do it again. You can't white balance, you have to buy filters. Everything came out washed out blue, and I ended up with two rolls of trash can filler. Not one shot came out.

For me, it's a no brainer. Go digital, even the pros aren't bothering with film any more. Digital really is that good nowadays. If you can stretch it out, and get into a digital SLR, even better.
 
Grey market isn't too bad with Canon but it's another story with Nikon. Nikon USA won't touch their grey market cameras/lenses so you'll have to search a 3rd party for repairs (e.g. KEH).

I'd also take a look at the Nikon D50 for something around that price range.
 
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