Getting out

ok man let me try and encourage you. With a tank THAT nice, I don't believe you are really serious about selling.


Taking the wife and kids to the fish store and picking out our first fish and first coral represented the defining moment of the hobby. Acquiring new things was extremely exciting, whether it be pumps, or new gadgets or new fish or new corals. But all of that excitement is gone now.

No it shouldn't be! I have a 5 yr old son and we always have fun together doing water changes, aquascaping, and staring at the tank after I get home from long day at work. If I'm craving for a new frag, I just sell some of my thriving frags locally and buy new ones! This keeps the excitement alive..


Now I'm left with an, expensive-to-run, time-consuming-to-maintain, responsibility.


Think about this... would you rather do online gambling? Smoke pot? Switch hobbies? Maybe pick up Home Theater and spend $10K on a set of tweeters? I've been through MANY hobbies (yes, expensive ones) and IMO- reefkeeping is THE most exciting, relaxing, most satisfying, most educational, lowest-cost hobby I've tried, bar none.


My nostalgia for the excitement is what motivated me to purchase the 90 gallon at RAP. But once I got it home I realized I could never set it up. How was I going to afford two tanks when I couldn't afford the one I had?


Easy. Sell it here, take the money and take your family somewhere where you all will have fun. You don't need expensive vacations to have fun.


I actually had a conversation with my wife that centered around withdrawing my daughter from a club so I could use the money to buy new lights.


Can't you use your existing lights? You don't need megawatt halides to "enjoy" the hobby. Again - Impulse buying.



My wife, knowing how important the hobby is to me agreed.


Your wife is very sweet. Does she have a sister? LOL j/k :D
But seriously, your wife is very understanding. My wife would be like ***#$@#% buying expensive fish again #$%^ :mad2:
But then I calmly remind her who pays the mortgage and she shuts up quick...lol


It was at that moment I for some reason started thinking correctly. I had a moment of clarity. WHat's more important, my family, or this hobby. The answer is obvious.


How expensive is that club? It couldn't be that much I suppose... can't your hobby and your daughter's club co-exist? Maybe find a 2nd job "to support the addiction"?


Nothing anyone says can change my mind at this point. When all the neighbors took their turns asking, "you spent how much on that box of water?". Guess what, they were in the right. They were correct. Not me.


Heh, what do they care? It's YOUR MONEY. Spend it. Any one of us can get hit by a car tomorrow and not have the chance to enjoy our money. Some guys spend thousands of cash on strip clubs every week (not me, I only give singles.. HA) Heck, some guy spent $3K on a Gem Tang!


My family needs some things, and I want to provide them. The tank is getting in the way.


I've been in this situation before and I know the tank is NOT getting in the way. All you have to do is control yourself and STOP spending. The money that you will otherwise spend on some frag, just keep it and use it for your family.


After this process I will most likely be selling the 90 gallon too. It's just sitting in my office with a blanket over it. Still with the backing paper on the acrylic. I never even vaccumed out the acrylic shavings from when Steve drilled the holes.


You got PM. :D


I think the time to part-out may be soon. I'm going to need more food, phtyo, and B-Ionic soon, and I don't want to put another penny into this hobby at this point. We need new flooring, we need a patio cover, and since about April we've had recurring hospital bills now too.


Reduce your bioload. Sell some SPS frags. Tone it down a little.
Soon you'll realize that you're not even spending a penny on the tank. Been there, done that.


My family is so cool, to put this into perspective, before I left for work today I was telling my girls I was thinking about getting rid of the tank. My oldest didn't agree, she said we should keep the tank, she liked the fish and corals. Then I told her I was planning on using some of the money to get her a puppy, (she asks for a puppy at least twice a day), and she responded, well ok then, sell the tank, and get me a puppy, but you CAN'T sell MY tank. And of course I realized her tank is the 90g sitting in my office


I have an easy solution: Tell her that your tank is now HER TANK. Then sell the 90G, use the money to buy the pup. In the end, you still have the tank, she now has a "new" tank, AND a puppy! How good is that???

sorry man if you still decide to sell. Blood is always thicker than (salt)water. I care for a fellow reefer that's why I offered some advice, that's all. Just ignore me, lol


Good luck man :)
 
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xtm, you're not making this easy.

I've felt like sh1t ever since posting the sell thread. This isn't easy for me. My wife was pleading with me last night not to sell it.

49% of me wants to keep the tank
51% of me is tired of all the work and money

I appreciate your post. I mainly agree with you on everything. For some reason, right now, the tank is an obstacle in our budget.

My wife says that I should ask for $100 for each coral. She really doesn't want me selling it.

I'm sad ;(
Cheers
Josh
 
Figure out ways to keep your maintenance down to nothing....

Autotopoff, water change every two weeks.. every 4 days I change my filter socks.. Every 4 days I fill up my rodi reserviour 20+gal. clean the glass every once in a while...

that is it for me...

My only issue is the electric bill...
 
Having a 4 sided tank, while spectacular IMO, is a pain to mag float. It's 12 linear feet to mag float, 24" high all the way.

I can't mag float anywhere near the sand bed or I'll scratch the acrylic. Because of this the acylic near the sand bed always has alagae on it that I can't get off. I tried using a Kent Marine Acrylic Algae scraper and it scratched the hell out of my tank. When that happened I seriously wanted to go to Kent Marine HQ and leave a steaming pile of dog **** on their front step.

I then tried the scraper on the side corners and scraped them all up too.

This is one of about 100 things that bug the hell out of me when it comes to this tank.

And I have to mag float it daily.

I don't trust auto-top off systems so i'd never use one. The neck on my skimmer gets caked in black gunk daily and then the bubbles stop rising, so I spend a ton of time cleaning my skimmer.

So the financial impact, the maintenance impact, the family impact, it's just all too much. I'm a slave to my tank. That's why it looks so nice. I don't want a tank that looks any less nice.

This isn't the hobby for me right now. Additionally, when I set the tank up I was making $1,000 more a month than I am now. My monthly income is not what it was at the end of last year.

Cheers
Josh
 
that kent scraper scratched my starfire glass tank also... I hate that thing... I moded it to fit a razor blade, and that works better. The scratches used to bother me, but I got over it.

I made my autotopoff for 16 bucks, and I use two skimmers... I clean them every 2 weeks...they still skim while gunky..

Filter socks were the key for me... trap 80% of the gunk, and change em every 4 days...

F
 
I sometimes use socks and sometimes I don't. I can't decide what I prefer.

When I use a filter sock I have less debris in my water but I have to change the sock every week
when I don't use a filter sock I have more debris in my water, BUT my sps polyp extension is much better.

As far as the fish, I'm not selling them yet. When I do I will post a thread for them with the prices. This is my standard response that I've issued to the other 8000 people that have asked about the fish also :)

Sorry
Josh
 
I miss my reef tank already. All I have now is an dark empty void of water with a few fish ;(


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This was taken in March, when the tank was 3 months old.
 
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