GHL standalone doser
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AQD_ottawa
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electronics and moisture and liquid crystals hate cold. I wuld keep the food in the fridge and the doser utside, get yourself a cheap beer fridge and run the tubes in and out
Allmost
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well keeping the doser out side means the food will go bad.
I assume you do not know the LCD and electronics used in the stand alone dosers ? any data sheet ? its only in this hobbu that the electronics dont need to have a data sheet lol
standard LCD works in 0-55 degree C, and at Zero response time is lowered, that is for the cheap $1.99 radio shack LCDs, the higher end ones work fine till -20 degrees C. A fridge runs a degree or two above zero.
I see many "auto feeders" working with GHL doser, are you saying those are made up pics or simply you dont have the info I am looking for ?
sorry about this reply, but the answer is not useful whatsoever. I do not like cold neither, yet I live and work in Canada close to north pole ! lol
I guess I will go with one that can send me their data sheet for parts.
I assume you do not know the LCD and electronics used in the stand alone dosers ? any data sheet ? its only in this hobbu that the electronics dont need to have a data sheet lol
standard LCD works in 0-55 degree C, and at Zero response time is lowered, that is for the cheap $1.99 radio shack LCDs, the higher end ones work fine till -20 degrees C. A fridge runs a degree or two above zero.
I see many "auto feeders" working with GHL doser, are you saying those are made up pics or simply you dont have the info I am looking for ?
sorry about this reply, but the answer is not useful whatsoever. I do not like cold neither, yet I live and work in Canada close to north pole ! lol
I guess I will go with one that can send me their data sheet for parts.
AQD_ottawa
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Sorry but you asked for our advise on the subject and it is very accurate. The doser electronics will be subject to 24/7 dampness which it is not designed for, the new dosers have dampness detection stickers on the lower back internal plate.
Please ask GHL about their warranty in such environments if my answer is not to your liking. (www.profiluxsupport.com) As they did before they probably will tell you it will invalidate the warranty. This is the second time we have been asked this same question, so I am fairly sure the answer from last time has not changed, if it has they can tell you directly. So I can only offer a possible work around solution.
I am not saying the doser will not work, I am saying it is not designed or warrantied to work in such an environment. What others have chosen to do is at their calculated risk.
Please ask GHL about their warranty in such environments if my answer is not to your liking. (www.profiluxsupport.com) As they did before they probably will tell you it will invalidate the warranty. This is the second time we have been asked this same question, so I am fairly sure the answer from last time has not changed, if it has they can tell you directly. So I can only offer a possible work around solution.
I am not saying the doser will not work, I am saying it is not designed or warrantied to work in such an environment. What others have chosen to do is at their calculated risk.
Allmost
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well I didnt ask for advice,
I asked for info.
"Hello,
can the stand alone doser be used inside a fridge ? "
thank you for your reply that it will void the warranty.
I have one on my SPS reef, I will check the dampness detection sticker.
it is not about my liking, it is about knowing your products. The temp range for the motors, LCD and the controller/processor. if its the controller or the LCD, one can use the none controllable ones
unless the motor's temp. range is higher.
I asked for info.
"Hello,
can the stand alone doser be used inside a fridge ? "
thank you for your reply that it will void the warranty.
I have one on my SPS reef, I will check the dampness detection sticker.
it is not about my liking, it is about knowing your products. The temp range for the motors, LCD and the controller/processor. if its the controller or the LCD, one can use the none controllable ones
unless the motor's temp. range is higher.
AQD_ottawa
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Here is the best and most accurate info
Putting the unit in the fridge will invalidate GHL's warranty of the product due to long term dampness potentially effecting the internal electronics.
Yes the unit will work but there is no manufacturer assurance for how long without issue due to the above noted reasons.
if a user wishes to put a unit in the fridge it is at their own liability of use.
Putting the unit in the fridge will invalidate GHL's warranty of the product due to long term dampness potentially effecting the internal electronics.
Yes the unit will work but there is no manufacturer assurance for how long without issue due to the above noted reasons.
if a user wishes to put a unit in the fridge it is at their own liability of use.
AQD_ottawa
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Data sheets will not change the waranty issue, I am sure GHL if asked can provide you all the data sheets you like.
But the biggest issue that no data sheet will resolve is GHL will not warranty it as the circuit board is subjected to moisture. No data sheet is going to change that situation. It is up to the owners choice if they wish to risk damage to the circuit board inside the unit.
The unit will work in a fridge But GHL can not assure for how long as the circuit board was not designed for in fridge use.
All the data sheets could say to you the components (other than the circuit boards) are in tolerance, but GHL still would not warranty it.
But the biggest issue that no data sheet will resolve is GHL will not warranty it as the circuit board is subjected to moisture. No data sheet is going to change that situation. It is up to the owners choice if they wish to risk damage to the circuit board inside the unit.
The unit will work in a fridge But GHL can not assure for how long as the circuit board was not designed for in fridge use.
All the data sheets could say to you the components (other than the circuit boards) are in tolerance, but GHL still would not warranty it.
Allmost
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ohh I am sorry, I thought you were the representer of GHL. my apology, I will contact them directly.
not asking for warranty.
a data sheet, will show optimal conditions and the range for each part to function. cuircuit BOARDS have no temp range, they work all the way down to absolute Zero. ... but that is not the case for processors and LCD and pumps.
again sorry for my misunderstanding, I will contact them directly.
not asking for warranty.
a data sheet, will show optimal conditions and the range for each part to function. cuircuit BOARDS have no temp range, they work all the way down to absolute Zero. ... but that is not the case for processors and LCD and pumps.
again sorry for my misunderstanding, I will contact them directly.
AQD_ottawa
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Correct a circuit board will work down to zero - the temperature is of no issue, the issue as stated above is dampness. This environment will create corrosion of the internal components in time. So as I said before, the unit will work but no guarrantee for how long.
There is no data sheet available for the effects of unregulated dampness of the circuit board or associated wiring connections. I am not sure of any manufacturer that would provide such info.
Here is GHL's direct email
sales@ghl-kl.de
There is no data sheet available for the effects of unregulated dampness of the circuit board or associated wiring connections. I am not sure of any manufacturer that would provide such info.
Here is GHL's direct email
sales@ghl-kl.de
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Almost, I am not sure if you think that your coming across as some intellectual person, but your actuality being obtuse with the questions your asking.
I been in the electronics field for a long time, what your asking your not going to find without spending some money.
If you take a step back, ask this in the DIY section of RC you may get some good ideas.
All these will for sure invalidate GHL's warranty.
I give you two.
1) 2 part epoxy would seal most electronics.
2) Water molecules are attracted to cold surfaces. heating strips on pumps and everything else that is metal would help. Maybe enclosed the whole doser inside a acyclic box with heat stripes inside.
I been in the electronics field for a long time, what your asking your not going to find without spending some money.
If you take a step back, ask this in the DIY section of RC you may get some good ideas.
All these will for sure invalidate GHL's warranty.
I give you two.
1) 2 part epoxy would seal most electronics.
2) Water molecules are attracted to cold surfaces. heating strips on pumps and everything else that is metal would help. Maybe enclosed the whole doser inside a acyclic box with heat stripes inside.
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