Give me your honest opinion, OK

I think if the person is "trying" to help the reefing community, then this person should do it.
Yet, your point about this person not being an expert (if one exists) is valid. It could mean one person giving a dogmatic approach to keeping said corals, when others have found different experiences.

It might be useful to get the opinions of experienced reefers to collaborate your findings.

All in all, most reefers here are so into this hobby and all they want to do is talk about thier experiences.

There are very few malicious people here just to start trouble. Usually, they're weeded out quickly, so I would consider this mystery person to be sincere.

Cheers
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7521845#post7521845 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reef Junkie
There are very few malicious people here just to start trouble. Usually, they're weeded out quickly

Bill,

I got all those PMs about me leaving the boards, but I chose not to pay attention. Thanks a lot for making it public!
 
"IMO, you spend too much time trying to CYA. For the most part,"

Those are some harsh words my friend, LOL. When you are dealing with the public, we all know words can be taken out of context and before you know it, hot darts and flames are flying. I have seen it a Ga-zillion times. It's out of respect that I tread very lightly whenever I'm speaking in a public forum. Here's a perfect example to make a long story short. A LFS owner argued and fought with me over something I knew to be a fact and he just didn't believe me because he had never heard of it nor had he had any experience with it happening to him. Sure enough, many months later, after what I warned him would happen in his main display tank, did indeed happen. He lost thousands of dollars. He later apologized to me. He took everything I said as an insult only because he never stopped to think and listen. I was only trying to help. I'm not CMA, I'm only showing some common courtesy with people I don't know. I tried my best to be respectful to him, but he attacked me with a vengence.

Fact, no two systems are alike. Sure, there are some techniques that will work in just about every tank. But again, no two systems are alike. The problem I see, and I'm no pro, just my opinion, is that far too many reefers are highly concerned over matters that will do nothing to sustain, improve or enhance their zoa population, water column or health of their zoas. I visited a reefer who was having some issues with his very expensive colony of palys which he purchased a month ago. He couldn't realize why he was experiencing such a die off. He was an experienced reefer of over 7 years and new to collecting zoas and palys. He had 4 PC bulbs on a 90 gallon tank. 2 actinics and 2 - 50/50 bulbs that were elevated 14 inches off the water. He was running a Euro Reef skimmer as well. It was obvious within 5 seconds of entering the room what the problem was. He knew the name of every polyp in his tank, he knew their value and what he could sell them for, but he knew nothing about creating an enviroment that was most condusive for growth, coloration and health of his collection. The entire tank was near death and he soon lost everything before we could reverse the process.

Don't attack me yet, here's another perfect example.

I saw a reefer on another site who was searching like crazy for something, something that is very expensive, even more expensive than a PPE. I stopped selling frags years ago, but this reefer was in agony over this particular variant. I Pm'd him and offered to sell him a frag for $ 25. That same frag would have cost him several hundred somewhere else. He PM'd me back and forth for 4 days with questions. Do you know what his questions were? Is it _________ _______ _________ . my reply, I don't know if it is or not, I don't name my zoos. He sent me a picture, a pic which I didn't need, I already knew that it was the same. To make a long story short, he never purchased it. He was more concerned with the name, then acquiring that which he searched high and low for. He told a friend about it and his friend read the PM's. Since the first guy didn't want it, his friend Paypal me an amount of money that dropped my jaw. I sold him the frag and sent back all but the $25 I ask for. To date he has over 100 polyps and could easily pay for his credit cards with the profits.

My hope is that we can begin to delve into other topics; there are many that will promote an intelligent discussion on a daily basis. Don't shoot me yet, but there are subjects that have never been posted or discussed here on RC. If someone posts a topic, just hear them out. There's no need to attack him/her. I hope we can also try to keep these discussions from straying off topic. This is where a lot of interest is lost.

Remember this thread.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=796764&highlight=mucho

I hope we can get back to more educational discussions as it relates to zoas.

I hope we can shift our discussions to a more informative and educational format that would guide and direct new and experienced reefers in the right direction. Promoting good husbandry, how to achieve the water quality that will enhance the overall enviorment of a new or mature system. OK, I know I know, I'm rambling again, but I hope you can see where I'm going with this.

Didn't mean to go overboard.

Mooch
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7524559#post7524559 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ficklefins
Bill,

I got all those PMs about me leaving the boards, but I chose not to pay attention. Thanks a lot for making it public!

And I would've got away with it too if it weren't for those menacing kids!:rolleyes:

Mooch,
Spill the beans.
 
IMO Experience = Knowledge and if you have it share it!

My motto is "Someone always has something they can teach me, as long as I'm willing to learn".
 
I'm very interested in learning from "Reefer A" if they can help me to understand certain questions/problems/concerns that I have with zoanthids. I do have to say though that I hope the threads will include pictorial as well as written explanations as being a very visual person, I take much more away from an explanation that includes pictures.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7524710#post7524710 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ecotoxlady
I'm very interested in learning from "Reefer A" if they can help me to understand certain questions/problems/concerns that I have with zoanthids.

OK, I'm here.

Let me start with my first suggestion....

Send your zoas to ficklefins...he really needs them. :D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7524872#post7524872 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reefer A
OK, I'm here.

Let me start with my first suggestion....

Send your zoas to ficklefins...he really needs them. :D
Not that I don't believe you but do you have factual documentation? :)
 
by Mr. Ugly
Not that I don't believe you but do you have factual documentation? :)

I'm glad you asked. I have been communicating with Ficklefins for some time now regarding the problems he was having with his tank and how they may be impacting his zoanthids. The following is what I found after a diagnostic visit to his house:

He had purchased what he thought were PPE frags, so he fed it and well, you be the judge.

PPE.jpg


Then he showed me his favorite zoas, which well.....were not. He did say they were spreading like wildfire!

Aiptasia.jpg

aiptasia2enh_400.JPG


Like I said, send him your zoas.
 
ouch, has he resolved his..uh.....PPE problem? I can contribute a frag or two but only if his...uh...PPE issue is resolved.
 
yeah yeah yeah

yeah yeah yeah

Hey zoanthid maniacs,

Been reading this thread with interest this morning - haven't posted in a few days, swamped with work. But, as everyone else seems to think, I too think these types of articles would be great! I would love to know more about how all zoanthids behave in the tank, and how diff environmental conditions affect them (morphology, color, health, etc.) - so yeah, bring on the articles!!

I have been working a bit on a zoanthid identification article, it is going to take a bit of time (work demands - boo hoo), but hope to send it off to some regular posters soon, and get their feedback.

I think between all you reefers and the science community we could bring some order to this chaotic (!) group and learn a lot at the same time - i think I get more info off these threads than out of any textbook.

well, that's my two yen...

j.

p.s. nasty PE a few posts ago! yikes.
 
Mucho, I didn't think you would take my comment as being harsh. I'd say the same thing if we were sitting at my house BSing. I really have no problem if you add disclaimers to every thread. I just didn't think it was necessary. Anybody that's read your posts and checked out your tank should realize you're legit. I know what you're saying though about how things can be perceived in a forum.

Don't mean to take this thread off track though. Great to see you Reefer A! Quite the introduction here. I'll be tuned in.

I'm all for more educational threads here. We all have something to learn from people that are more experienced. Hopefully you guys can make me a 'zoo novice'. I'd be very interested to learn how to improve this element of my tank in any way I can.
 
jreimer, i want to see some pics of more zoas/palys in the wild, that you see on your diving drips!! :D

i think we should dedicate a sticky thread to this! :smokin:
 
Haha - ok!

Haha - ok!

surfnvb - you asked for it (haha) - I have hundreds of pics of "wild" zoanthids. I'll see if I can get a new thread going a bit later today in between experiments!
 
Re: Haha - ok!

Re: Haha - ok!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7526724#post7526724 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jreimer
surfnvb - you asked for it (haha) - I have hundreds of pics of "wild" zoanthids. I'll see if I can get a new thread going a bit later today in between experiments!

<--------drooling!!

i guess i'll have to wait until morning to see them, darn time zones :p
 
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