Goldflake Angel...

Ehhh...

He is still alive and fat but he doesn't swim good at all! He will dart after food when i put it in there but struggles just chillin. I think most because he doesn't swim with his tail. I saw him in a little cave in the tank doing about 10 barrel rolls side to side!!! I thought that was it for sure! But the next day he was just fine. And his dorsal and tail fins get a beat up from him bumping into stuff.... Im happy he has made it this far, and i just hope he is not in any pain!
 
Hi all ,

I have been reading this thread with interest as i hope to purchase a goldflake for my tank in the new year.Im trying to read as much info as possible on this gorgeous fish.

regards Colin
 
I have one en route as well. Am I right in taking from this thread that a sponge-heavy diet is key for GF? I also saw earlier in the thread a post about feeding aloe vera as well but didnt see any more on it. How would you feed aloe? In a clip like nori?
 
Unfortunatly, my Goldflake passed away last week... But the fish continued to deteriorate and pretty much spent the last 2 weeks of his life lying on his side so it was time. I'd like to try another but what happened is still a mystery to me as well as others i've asked about and I'd hate to see it happen to another Goldflake....

But man, the Juvies coming in are incredible!
 
It might be worthwhile if someone with a GF in a death spiral performed a basic necropsy immediately upon death.
Directions can be found in Jay Hemdal's book, Advanced Marine Aquarium Techniques.

I have always been in love with the GF and planned on getting one. Now I'm not so sure.
What kind of price range are the juvies?

It is my understanding that white stringy poop indicates parasites. Is it an absolute indication? I don't know.
Is it possible that our fish pick up parasites from mollusks acting as intermediate hosts? If so, maybe all mollusks need to be quarinteed away from fish long enough for the parasites to run through their life cycle and die.
 
Ryan, very sorry to hear the passing of your GF. My juv didn't fare well either. Thinking of forgoing the idea of pairing and just concentrate on keeping the big one well.
 
Man, that is too bad Kevin... Did it ever get rid of the reddish on her side? If not that was probably a bacterial infection...

They are very difficult fish. I've heard from quite a few people that they are tough. I think there is some parameter that we are missing. Like they are typically found in cooler/ warmer waters, or there is somthing in their diet that we are not feeding them so they deteriorate over time.

Kev, I got you PM but have been stupid busy. I'll try to answer it today but congrats for sure!
 
I never really noticed much about the redness but maybe it's on the last 2 pics above with the red hue. Without a question they're difficult but with a proper QT & stress free environment is crucial in the initial stage of getting them to eat prepared food and adapting to enclosed system.

For now I think I'm pretty much done with the idea of pairing and just concentrate on keeping the big boy happy. :) A lot less stressful with sticking to Flagfins instead.

No rush on the question I was just checking in.
 
Thought it was time to share this video. I have had these guys for a couple of months now in QT. They are doing really well and I plan on keeping them here for 3-4 more months.

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Very nice chris. Im glad they are doing well for you this time. They are very cool fish, but im limited with space so im not sure ill add another...

Keep us updated on how they do!
 
After reading through this thread, I can see why there are hesitations in getting a goldflake angel. I want to share my GF experience. I got mine from a local reefer that had it for 1 1/2 years. Now, the fish has been in my tank another 1 year. I've only had positive observations about my GF. It is a nice show fish that catches people's attention. I had tank crash this summer from not QT a new fish and ich broke out in my tank. Half of my fish died, but the GF survived after moving to a hospital tank for 2 months. It will eat any food that I offer: nori, pellets, flakes, frozen. Does not bother any of my other fish or corals. I have SPS and palythoas. So hopefully, this positive experience will give others thoughts on taking a dive with the goldflake.

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From my experience in FW, I've always known that white stringy feces means internal bloat, and is due to a diet high in protein and not enough fiber or greens. Knowing that sponges make up an angels diet almost enitirely in the wild, it would make one think that it is a nutritional deficiency. Any thoughts on this?
 
ccampbell57 said:
Thought it was time to share this video. I have had these guys for a couple of months now in QT. They are doing really well and I plan on keeping them here for 3-4 more months.

Those are just gorgeaus! How come so long in QT? Have you treated them with anything?
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Because when you have a collection like he does, QT is important because some specimens are hard to obtain or one of a kind. Also they are small compared to his other beasties.

I'm sure Chris has his own reasons also :)
 
salty joe said:
ccampbell57 said:
Those are just gorgeaus! How come so long in QT? Have you treated them with anything?
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thanks Salty Joe! I have treated then with a couple rounds of copper and prazi. They are the smallest angels in the collection (.5" smaller than the joculator). They need to grow for a while and fall in love :)

tcmfish said:
Because when you have a collection like he does, QT is important because some specimens are hard to obtain or one of a kind. Also they are small compared to his other beasties.

I'm sure Chris has his own reasons also :)
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Tim - you are Correct ;)
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ccampbell57 said:
salty joe said:
thanks Salty Joe! I have treated then with a couple rounds of copper and prazi. They are the smallest angels in the collection (.5" smaller than the joculator).

The copper would kill all external parasites including gill flukes, is that about right?
Does prazi kill internal parasites?


They need to grow for a while and fall in love :) QUOTE] That's exactly what I have wanted to do for quite awhile with GFs. I got hooked on a pair of fish lovers as a kid with a pair of oscars. The only time they were seperated was dinner time. They slept together. WAY more beautiful than two seperate fish. My plan is to have a pair of GFs as the show stopper, then stock my 500 in the works with a lot of interesting little critters.

Are all juvi GFs female, then the more dominant morphs to a male? Do they form mated pairs?

ccampbell, I'm very interested to watch your progress with your pretty little GFs.





scubasteve06 From my experience in FW, I've always known that white stringy feces means internal bloat, and is due to a diet high in protein and not enough fiber or greens. Knowing that sponges make up an angels diet almost enitirely in the wild, it would make one think that it is a nutritional deficiency. Any thoughts on this?
12/05/2010 02:09 AM

That's real interesting,I always thought white stringy poop meant internal parasites. Internal bloat sounds like what is happening to some of these GFs. And taking a turn for the worse after a year or so makes me also wonder if the main problem is dietary.
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