rsantangelo3@co
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I have a french that is going into a 300. Love adult angles. Any good ones out there that wont stress eachother out??? That will be able to hang with the french- Changing to adult
Good angles to mix?
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Recty
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I like to mix 90 degree angles and sometimes even 135 degree angles.
Oh, you mean angels? In that case, most large angels dont particularly like each other around, but you can easily mix them. If they had their way in the wild they wouldnt be in such close quarters though.
If I understand right, you're asking what can go into the 300, not the 90 gallon listed in your signature?
Oh, you mean angels? In that case, most large angels dont particularly like each other around, but you can easily mix them. If they had their way in the wild they wouldnt be in such close quarters though.
If I understand right, you're asking what can go into the 300, not the 90 gallon listed in your signature?
rsantangelo3@co
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Yes Recty Correct. No need to be rude, I am done on my 300 build an my french ANGEL in my 90 I am moving into it and was curious what others could tolerate each other. Forgive the spelling. If you had advice I would appreciate it if you just have jokes please save them- Thanks
yukonblizzard
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How about a Maculosus Angel, They are sweet lookin' and would probably be good with a French in a 300. Also maybe an Annularis.
I am in the progress of mixing two angels, Koran and Emperor. Both juvenile in similar size. I got the Koran for about 3 weeks, then had the Emperor. When I first put the Emperor in, the Koran heavily attack the Emperor till I had to separate them. I set the Emperor aside for two weeks for it to recover. Yesterday I had it put back with the Koran again and they started to fight again. So I rearrange my rocks and turn off the lights. They seem to settled a bit. Lets see what's going to happen in the next couple of days. Mixing angel needs lots patient and work. So be prepared for it.
DamnPepShrimp
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jzchen, are both the emperor and koran juvi's? If so, the chances of it working are pretty slim, especially in a 120g tank! Two pomocanthus could mean trouble, especially two juvi's that look extremely similar!
To the OP, with a med sized french, I would look into angels in the holocanthus genus. Are you looking to add just one more angel? I'd add a queen. I should be getting a juvi queen and juvi french thursday. I have had great luck with queen and emperor angels, tried adding a larger gray and the queen excepted it but the emperor hated it. You have a good amount of room in a 300g, what are the dimenions? 96x30x24? Also, if your french is aggressive, you might want to hold it in the 90g and add another angel first to the 300g. Usually add fish in order of aggressive/size. What angels are you looking to add? Maybe if you put up a list (and sizes) that would help us help you out.
To the OP, with a med sized french, I would look into angels in the holocanthus genus. Are you looking to add just one more angel? I'd add a queen. I should be getting a juvi queen and juvi french thursday. I have had great luck with queen and emperor angels, tried adding a larger gray and the queen excepted it but the emperor hated it. You have a good amount of room in a 300g, what are the dimenions? 96x30x24? Also, if your french is aggressive, you might want to hold it in the 90g and add another angel first to the 300g. Usually add fish in order of aggressive/size. What angels are you looking to add? Maybe if you put up a list (and sizes) that would help us help you out.
rsantangelo3@co
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Pepshrimp- Was actually thinknig of ordering and when I do my move out into the 300 have my fish arrive the same day. That way I have the means of adding them all at the same size- Was actually considering 2-3 maybe for angles all in the 3-5" range. Was looking at queen but cant find them, asfur, annul, maybe even a blue face or passer. Heard passers are nasty! What are your thought. Dont really want to stress them out. I hear an 8ft tank no problems but I know an 8 ft tank just means more room to get away! Love my french and I know juvis fight till death. Some reason adults are a tab more tolerable. Dont want to loose prized fish! Also was considering keeping mushrooms and leathers in the tank as well. Angles shldnt bother these types right? Looking at reefhotspot for myel. also reccomend adding smaller angels then the french or larger? Also multiple like 3-4 total is beter than a pair? Thanks I really want to get this right the first time!
agreeive?fish
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well adding multpile angels at one time into a new territory will spread out the agression and make the transition easier on all thats for sure and personaly i think the 3-5 inch range is the perfect size range for large angels going to capitive inviroments as the seem to adjust better and are mature enough to handle the stress but not to mature to have the adult wild diet..... and as stated before by others the more distant the genus and color/shape the better off you and the angels are..i dont know anything about FRENCH angels so this is just my opinion as i only have an asfur and a scribbled
rsantangelo3@co
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sO STEER AWAY FROM ADDING A SECOND POMCNTHS?lIKE AN EMPEROR OR ANNUL?
DamnPepShrimp
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jzchen, as juvi's they are going to continue to fight since theyre colors are so similar. I'd be surprised if it works out. IMO if you are going to mix a koran and emperor, I'd have the emperor changing or changed to an adult and the koran still a juvi.
rsantangelo3@co, you would think 3 angels would be ok and better then two so not one could single out the other, but that isn't always the case. When I had my queen and emperor, they were literally best buds, swam with each other, never fought, I thought I was going to have the first hybrid queen/emperor haha. My emperor was 4.5" and starting to change, queen was about 3". I added a 6" grey angel to the mix and the emperor did not take to it very well. He builled it around in the begining. Expect some problems off the start, angels will mark/defend their territories. Once that is established, it should cool down and only maybe a little bit of tailfanning/small chase. You don't want to see any crazy biting, blood drawn or wounds. Chasing is completely normal. My emperor would just give a quick "fake" run at the gray when he came near him, the gray would swim away and that was that.
I have seen a large french angel with a medium sized mac angel before. IMO, If your adding a smaller pomo (mac, bluering, asfur, etc) I would add it smaller then the french, but hold the french in the 90g. Let the smaller angel get into the tank first and get established. Plus you don't want to add all your fish at once to the tank, you'll create an ammonia spike. For a third angel, I'd go for a small queen, smaller then the 2nd pomo angel. I've owned both queens and passers (still have the passer and getting a new queen tomorrow) and passers are down right mean! Kirkaz has a small 2" one, harmless. Once they hit 5"+ they are monsters! My is going to probably live in a tank by himself, he's pushing 6" and is currently at my brothers house.
Hope all this helps, nothing is set in stone or guaranted! What other fish will be in the tank? I know you have a PBT, that is an aggressive tang. I'd look into maybe adding a purple tang, different genus but still aggressive enough to hold its own. My brother had a 4-5" aggressive purple tang and I added my passer to the tank who is slightly bigger, within a couple months I had to pull the tang out, nearly died mainly from being bullied so it couldn't eat. And this purple tang is aggressive! Killed other fish. Good luck, let us know what you decide.
rsantangelo3@co, you would think 3 angels would be ok and better then two so not one could single out the other, but that isn't always the case. When I had my queen and emperor, they were literally best buds, swam with each other, never fought, I thought I was going to have the first hybrid queen/emperor haha. My emperor was 4.5" and starting to change, queen was about 3". I added a 6" grey angel to the mix and the emperor did not take to it very well. He builled it around in the begining. Expect some problems off the start, angels will mark/defend their territories. Once that is established, it should cool down and only maybe a little bit of tailfanning/small chase. You don't want to see any crazy biting, blood drawn or wounds. Chasing is completely normal. My emperor would just give a quick "fake" run at the gray when he came near him, the gray would swim away and that was that.
I have seen a large french angel with a medium sized mac angel before. IMO, If your adding a smaller pomo (mac, bluering, asfur, etc) I would add it smaller then the french, but hold the french in the 90g. Let the smaller angel get into the tank first and get established. Plus you don't want to add all your fish at once to the tank, you'll create an ammonia spike. For a third angel, I'd go for a small queen, smaller then the 2nd pomo angel. I've owned both queens and passers (still have the passer and getting a new queen tomorrow) and passers are down right mean! Kirkaz has a small 2" one, harmless. Once they hit 5"+ they are monsters! My is going to probably live in a tank by himself, he's pushing 6" and is currently at my brothers house.
Hope all this helps, nothing is set in stone or guaranted! What other fish will be in the tank? I know you have a PBT, that is an aggressive tang. I'd look into maybe adding a purple tang, different genus but still aggressive enough to hold its own. My brother had a 4-5" aggressive purple tang and I added my passer to the tank who is slightly bigger, within a couple months I had to pull the tang out, nearly died mainly from being bullied so it couldn't eat. And this purple tang is aggressive! Killed other fish. Good luck, let us know what you decide.
rsantangelo3@co
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Dampep I hear you and Thanks. Passers are nasty fish. Pretty as hell tho! Frenchs can be nasty too. Mainly tangs and angels I hope. Some percs and chromis, maybe a rabbit. Ammonia spike not to worried about. Mostly all cycled water. Jut a big water change my upgrade will be! Was hoping to order on timing of set-up so all can introduce at the same time, We will see. What about a regal of flagfin being so tempermentle?
DamnPepShrimp
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I see a regal or flagfin being too passive. I'd pick a pomocanthus and a holocanthus angel.
DamnPepShrimp
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That is a very clean tank! I am getting my french and queen juvi's tomorrow! Can't wait! Still looking to get a trio of flame angels. Just throwing out what I am getting, for ideas for other people.
rsantangelo3@co
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Where r u getting your juvis if you dont miond me asking?
