Got the Ich PLEASE HELP

Something would have to be wrong with the copper level for you to continue to see spots after 10 days even. Any after that means they had been reinfected during the copper levels at the said .5 level which wouldn't be possible.

I would get an independent test if you can. Have you compared to the .5 sample that comes with the testkit?

not even close to the reference. wth?? no I don't know how I should does my tank?? HELP?
 
by "not even close" do you mean your tank level is much lighter in color than the reference? if so, this likely means that you are well under the .35ppm minimum level required to eliminate the parasite.

it is really tough, IMO/E, to see the slight variations in colors which was one reason I stopped doing copper for my new fish QT'ing. I found that I had to dose 2x what the label says requires to get to .5ppm. never understood how that was possible.

you just need to get used to the shade of blue that represents .5ppm and dose until you get to that level. you can call Seachem and they will/should send you extra free reference samples to go off of until you get the hang of it. they did this for me.
 
by "not even close" do you mean your tank level is much lighter in color than the reference? if so, this likely means that you are well under the .35ppm minimum level required to eliminate the parasite.

it is really tough, IMO/E, to see the slight variations in colors which was one reason I stopped doing copper for my new fish QT'ing. I found that I had to dose 2x what the label says requires to get to .5ppm. never understood how that was possible.

you just need to get used to the shade of blue that represents .5ppm and dose until you get to that level. you can call Seachem and they will/should send you extra free reference samples to go off of until you get the hang of it. they did this for me.

Cliff,
Yes, my tank is much lighter than the sample untested against. I tried to call seachem closed on weekend. This sucks.y fish look terrible. I did the Rec dosage, but I added more ill retest the water in a few hours and see what the reading is. I'm thinkingaybe I should use cuprisorb and take out all the copper and start over? Hell, I dont know.
 
the only reason to start it over (e.g. absorb what you currently have first) would be to give the fish a break from the copper for a while before starting again. but it looks like you need to move quickly, so I'd recommend just getting it up to .5ppm over the next couple days. it will give the fish a little immediate relief and they will be ich-free within 7 days (while the rest of the parasites jump off) getting more and more relief each day as they jump off.
 
the only reason to start it over (e.g. absorb what you currently have first) would be to give the fish a break from the copper for a while before starting again. but it looks like you need to move quickly, so I'd recommend just getting it up to .5ppm over the next couple days. it will give the fish a little immediate relief and they will be ich-free within 7 days (while the rest of the parasites jump off) getting more and more relief each day as they jump off.

Lost my tang this morming. I'm more than a little ****ed off. the dosing directions on the cupermine bottle are nowhere near what I needed to bring it up to where is should have been. I don't think I would have lost my
Tang if I would have had the correct amount of
Cupermine in for the last 10 days! Geez!!! Other fish seem ok eating and swimming around as normal. NEVER EVER put anything in your tank without QT first. I had the guy at the LFS tell me ick is always present. It doesn't matter if you quarantine or not. He also said "you'd have to QT everything you put into your tank! Rock inverts etc.. And that's a hassle." SERIOUSLY??!! Doubt I'll purchase anything from him again...
 
LFS's (99% rule) lose money if people fully treat and QT their livestock. Not only does it slow down purchases it also makes for less purchases due to your livestock surviving longer. So I would not expect anything different from a LFS unfortunately.

But at least he has it right that you would have to QT everything; rock, etc. Not many people seem to realize that you could bring in a cyst on the shell of an invert or surface of rock, among other possibilities.

The other misconception is 'treating' vs. 'QT'ing'. QT'ing is just the process of isolating the fish or livestock from your DT for a period of time. Treating is actively attempting to eliminate something like Ich. If someone isn't going to treat their livestock, QT'ing is at least better than just throwing in the DT without observing first.
 
LFS's (99% rule) lose money if people fully treat and QT their livestock. Not only does it slow down purchases it also makes for less purchases due to your livestock surviving longer. So I would not expect anything different from a LFS unfortunately.

But at least he has it right that you would have to QT everything; rock, etc. Not many people seem to realize that you could bring in a cyst on the shell of an invert or surface of rock, among other possibilities.

The other misconception is 'treating' vs. 'QT'ing'. QT'ing is just the process of isolating the fish or livestock from your DT for a period of time. Treating is actively attempting to eliminate something like Ich. If someone isn't going to treat their livestock, QT'ing is at least better than just throwing in the DT without observing first.

Cliff,

You're my new best friend!
 
can starfish and eel carry/support ick. I just had a seachem support line tell me they could? Any feedback? I thought I could leave them in my fowler tank and the ick would starve. Can they host ick?
 
Seachem support line is CORRECT.

Anything wet can carry Ick and any fish present means that the Ick life cycle can be completed, thus remaining in your tank.
 
While that is true, there's also many threads on here stating that eels cannot get ick. there also many threads stating that eels can get ick, so there you go. there's more contradictory information on the site tjan there really is helpful. one person says one thing, one person says another. who's right who's wrong?
 
No, ich is not caused by stress. It is not cured by garlic. It has an off-again on-again life cycle which is partly in a sandbed, partly on a fish.
 
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