Greetings (anemone inquiry)

Markdrav

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Greetings,

I'm fairly new to the hobby, I've followed and looked to this forum and a few others for information and advice over the past 6 months while I've cycled in my new tank. I figured this would be the better subforum to introduce myself in as opposed to "new to the hobby" as my interests are heavily weighted around anemones and clownfish.

Here is my situation. This is the first tank I've ever had. Its a 55 gallon currently set up with about a 2 1/2 inch substrate of a fine particle live sand, and about 60 pounds of rock (30 or so pounds of very nice stuff and 30 lbs of lace rock). I added 2 tomato clowns, 2 true percs, 2 fiji devils, and 1 other cheap yellow damsel to help me cycle in the tank.

My filtration is a sump based system, I currently push 800gph through a 30 gallon sump(modified my overflow to accomodate). I also have two powerheads in tank moving about 250 gph each. There is a Phosban 150 in the sump and soon to be a good skimmer.

My lighting is a 4x65 watt coralife PC with 2 10k daylight and 2 65w actinics.

Here are the inquiries associated with me moving forward.

Despite the tomatos and percs pairing off and getting along like I've hoped I'm going to return them to the LFS for in store credit and start fresh with 2 false percs and 2 black occys introduced at the same time as juveniles. The tomatos and percs were juves but from what I've read on here the eventual murder of my percs is a foregon conclusion if I keep it as is.

After making the fish change, I'm also going to add 2 tangs and a few more CUC elements to supplement my turbos and hermits.

This is where I hit a wall. The idea the entire time has been to have two small mountains of liverock opposite each other in the tank with anemones on it and each pair of clowns hosting a particular side. What anemones can be healthy under these lights and what methods would you incorporate to discourage movement away from their assigned mountains? I know better than to try and force them into a place, but I'm more or less looking for a way to make the gap between sides a no mans land that encourages the anemone to turn around.

I could take some pictures of the current state of the tank if theres interest in such a small system, and I understand that the tank is a bit small for multiple pairs of clowns to coexist. This is the behavior I want to get experience with though as my future goals and dream tanks are centered around segregated colonies in a very large tank. So far from reading and following threads on here the three things I've done to try and accomodate is tank bred clowns, introduced at the same time as juves, and choosing less aggressive breeds by clown standards.
 
well, if you get BTA they tend not to venture on sand, but they could always decide to go floating around if they really want to move. I've heard of people using a lot of current in the middle to discourrage the nems from going there. That's obviously if you have an anemone that doesn't like high flow.

On a different note, many will advise a tank of 100 gallons and up for tangs
 
I've heard of people using a lot of current in the middle to discourrage the nems from going there.

On a different note, many will advise a tank of 100 gallons and up for tangs

I have heard the same thing about having strong current in the middle. I remember reading a forum where someone did exactly that, but I can't seem to remember which one it was. I agree about the tangs, too. Unless you plan to have a larger tank ready for them when they outgrow the 55, I wouldn't get them.
 
well, if you get BTA they tend not to venture on sand, but they could always decide to go floating around if they really want to move. I've heard of people using a lot of current in the middle to discourrage the nems from going there. That's obviously if you have an anemone that doesn't like high flow.

On a different note, many will advise a tank of 100 gallons and up for tangs

Glad I posted then. I'll have to wait til future builds to get the tangs then.

More than anything I need population in this tank to try and keep the aggression between the clowns as diffused as possible. I thought I might try and do a pure clown tank with 7/7 of each species and try to run that for about a year before upgrading to a larger tank. Whats your opinions on that? Pretty heavy bioload but they should all still be pretty modest in size if everyone survives after a year. I feel like anything less than 7 and it would end up being worse than if i just went with the 2/2.

The other thought was 4-6 other fish with an aggressive nature. Like keeping the 2 fiji's, then getting a pair of 3 stripe damsels and a pair of talbot damsels. It would be a very aggressive tank with alot of bickering, but I think there would be enough numbers to diffuse that aggression amongst the lot. And none of those should compete with the clowns for one of the anemones.

Any of you ever experiment with these kinds of scenarios?
 
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