Group Buy

imsqueak

Premium Member
With my added diatoms, and someone interested in my damsel I'm up for starting a group buy for fish and/or clean up crew. I have no idea where to order from yet but would like to see if you guys are interested in a group buy. We can either do it quickly or plan it so it arrives for the next mtg. I'm for the later, but lets see what you want

BTW, garlic nuri worked for my tang's brown spot. It's almost all better.
 
I'm in no hurry either, but I'm looking for (fish!):

juvenile black polymnus
two-banded clown
true sebae clown
black variant clarkii clown
yellow-striped neon goby

most of these are to pair with existing fish, and I've already put the call out several places with limited success, so if the place we decide to order from has any one of them, I'm in!
 
Don, I could use some snails and hermits. As far as the fish....I bought tank-raised breeders from Inland Aquatics in the past. Morgan is the guy to talk to. You have to call a see what species they have on hand though.
 
I'd be interested in a naso or related tang, a 'psychadelic' mandarin, and/or 4~6 large mexican turbo snails.
 
Scott, you are aware that those tangs get to be about 18-22" long in a fairly short period of time, right?

I'm not trying to crack on you, but I just think from experience a Naso is not the way to go. They are murder on your bioload and unless you are willing to seriously upgrade, you won't make the best home for a Naso. If I had it to do all over again, I would totally not have gotten a Naso tang. Just my opinion, but if you want to talk about it, let me know.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6784316#post6784316 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pico66
As far as the fish....I bought tank-raised breeders from Inland Aquatics in the past. Morgan is the guy to talk to. You have to call a see what species they have on hand though.

Yup, I've talked to Morgan, visited his place in Indiana, and purchased a couple of pairs from him -- very healthy fish. Right now I'm looking for a few single fish to pair with existing ones, and I thought if I could tag them on to a group order it would be easier, since they are seldom available all at once, and it might keep me from paying full shipping costs for each fish.

And the Naso--mine is growing faster than I thought it would and will soon need more room than that 125.
 
Oops. I meant kole tang or one of its smaller cousins. I must have been thinking of you, Mel. :) I would like to have a smallish tang to float around picking at tiny bits of green hair algae that is overgrowing my glass. And, of course, to fill the water space with some motion other than at feeding time.
 
Scott, I know you know better -- so I thought maybe you had recently gotten a huge tank that none of us knew about yet!
 
I have $290 store credit with MarineDepotLive that I've been wanting to burn down, just to have more liquidity (i.e., ability shop around if I want). I ordered a Goldflake Angel from them several months ago that didn't make it - it was floating in the bag, barely breathing when it arrived, and they were good about honoring the stay-alive guarantee.

If folks were interested in buying from MDL, I would be willing to do the logistics of compiling the order, calling it in, and serving as a pick-up location for the order in exchange for the benefit of trading my store credit for liquid cash. Despite my experience with the Goldflake, MDL seems to have a generally good reputation and they usually have excellent selection, even for rarer species. I got my Magnificent Foxface from them, and he's done great. I'd probably add a fish of my own to the order.

Jeff (vol_reefer)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6785842#post6785842 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Fishboy42
Scott, I know you know better -- so I thought maybe you had recently gotten a huge tank that none of us knew about yet!
I think if I got a bigger tank, my wife would smash it to little bits...
 
If we go with MarineDepotLive, I could get the Yellow Eye Kole Tang for $23 and the Spotted Mandarin Goby (Synchiropus picturatus) for $12. I would also like to get 5 Mexican Turbo Snails (Turbo fluctuosa) for $2 each. We can get 12 of these snails for $19, so let me know if somebody wants to split the order.
 
OK, MDL lists some things I'd like too. Early concensus is pointing to them. So next part is to order soon (yet give others time to see the thread) or wait and order to arrive 3rd Sat of March?
 
That's very generous Jeff, thanks! It is a bit of work to coordinate these things sometimes.

I've never ordered from MDL, but I've heard good things. I guess we'd have to call to make sure what we wanted was in stock when we were ready? (whenever we decide to go ahead with it). They list the gold neon goby that I've been looking for, so I'm wondering if they have them ready to ship.

Maybe they have more in stock than they list on their site? I may call them close to our order date to see if they have anything on my "list."
 
I believe the way MDL works is that they don't actually keep a lot of livestock on their premises - they compile a list of what people want, and every morning they go out to their wholesalers by LAX to cherry-pick the best examples. For the more common items, it's almost a sure thing that one of the distributors will have it. For less common items that have short shelf lives at the wholesalers, it can be a little less straightforward. When I ordered the Goldflake, I had to call the day before it would be shipped to tell them what I wanted, and then I had to check back with them the following morning to see if they had snagged one, so I would know whether to expect a fish the next day. I had to try a few times before we got one. For those unusual specimens, they never know until they see what you're looking for, and then they have to ship it that day or you risk having the wholesaler sell it to someone else.

MDL normally uses UPS, and they have a $16 surcharge for Saturday delivery to a residence or business. I usually prefer to have my live shipments held at the shipping station, to avoid having them bounced around in the back of a truck all morning, but I believe the UPS stations around here are closed for pickup on Saturday. So we could eat the $16 surcharge to have the shipment dropped at my house, or if we switch to a weekday delivery I could pick it up at the station. The former makes me nervous with the cold temperatures we've been having, but the latter might simply not be an option if we can't find a weekday morning when everyone can come by my house.

Unfortunately, I don't have the tank space to hold everyone's items - all I have for quarantine is a single 20-gallon tank. I'm pretty sure I don't like the idea of putting Yellowboyviet's undulate trigger and fishboy42's neon goby in the same tank for holding! So everyone would need to come pick up their shipments within a relative narrow time window. If we did this on a weekday, we could even meet at the UPS station at TYS, just to avoid them having to take an extra car ride.

MDL does have a stay-alive guarantee - I think it's three days. Check their website for the details. Of course, if the shipment is in my name, I'll be the one who has to make any claims with them if something dies. I don't mind doing this if need be. Obviously, if for some reason MDL turns down the claim, I would not want to be liable for the loss - that's between you and MDL, with me just acting as spokesperson for our group. They might ask you to send them a water sample.

I can't do a delivery on the 3rd Saturday of March, unfortunately, because I'll be on travel then. I'll also be gone the 2nd Saturday of March. I could do Saturday, March 4th if we have our act together in time, although my request to pick up the livestock as soon as it gets delivered would be doubly important that day because we're having company and I can't be tied down to the house all day (your fish won't want to sit in their bags all day anyway!). Right now it looks like I could do a UPS station pick-up on the morning of Friday the 3rd, but everyone would have to be available on that weekday for that to work. The fourth Saturday of March (3/25) also works for me right now.

How does all this sound to everyone? Is a weekday morning pickup even an option for everyone?

Jeff (vol_reefer)
 
I'd rather do a weekday delivery, if that is fine with everybody else. I think a Saturday delivery is only important if we have a club meeting that morning. I'd have to bail out of the order, though, if we hold the meeting and delivery on March 25 -- that is my anniversary weekend and my wife has other plans in mind.

Either Friday, March 3rd, or Friday March 17th would be perfect for me (both are my Friday off). Any weekday is fine, though, if it works out better putting in on another day. We could meet at the UPS station like I did for the snail order. Would that be the main distribution center on Callahan? Or somewhere else?
 
March 17th would be out for me because I'll still be out of town then.

You can specify whatever UPS station you want, but the Callahan Dr. one might make sense because it is their main hub - minimizes number of transfers. One time I had MDL deliver via FedEx because I had another shipment coming in with them the same day that I had to pick up. FedEx is nice because they have a public station right at TYS - one fewer link for the package. FedEx has the same Saturday problem, though.

Jeff (vol_reefer)
 
You can throw my trigger and Matt's gobies into the same tank. Matt and I are buddies. I'm sure our fishes will be too :D

I prefer a weekday delivery also. I'm going to be out of town the weekend of 3/25. that day is my birthday
 
I would be interested in being part of the group order. Mine will be simple, just a tank cleaner package and maybe a small fish. Just post the pick up date etc please. As the time gets closer I will finialize my wish list. Thanks.
Mike
 
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