H.reidi problem.
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pledosophy
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I would move the horse to a hospital tank.
Slowly, Drop the temp of that tank to 69F to slow the progression of the bacteria.
Treat with Neo 3 for a full dosage regiment.
How long has it been with no food?
What are your other tank parameters?
What are the tank mates?
What is your flow like in the tank.
It may be possible to add some meds such as neosporin directly to the wound, but not sure on that.
It might be a good idea to post in the Emergency Forum on seahorse.org for confirmation.
Neo3 is available at Aquabiotics.net and at Seahorsesource.com. Just saw you are in England, if shipping is not available I might know soeone who could get you the meds on that side of the pond.
I'm not a disease expert, but do know some. If anyone has a better idea please post. To me it looks like flesh erosion or tail rot. It is possible that it is a wound, from a stinging coral, but not certain, which is why I asked for your tankmates.
Seems to me the outbreak of the disease after a period of not eating is a sign of vibrio which led me to believe it was tail rot or flesh erosion. Doesn't tail rot usually start toward the tip of the tail though? The treatment is the same for both I believe.
Slowly, Drop the temp of that tank to 69F to slow the progression of the bacteria.
Treat with Neo 3 for a full dosage regiment.
How long has it been with no food?
What are your other tank parameters?
What are the tank mates?
What is your flow like in the tank.
It may be possible to add some meds such as neosporin directly to the wound, but not sure on that.
It might be a good idea to post in the Emergency Forum on seahorse.org for confirmation.
Neo3 is available at Aquabiotics.net and at Seahorsesource.com. Just saw you are in England, if shipping is not available I might know soeone who could get you the meds on that side of the pond.
I'm not a disease expert, but do know some. If anyone has a better idea please post. To me it looks like flesh erosion or tail rot. It is possible that it is a wound, from a stinging coral, but not certain, which is why I asked for your tankmates.
Seems to me the outbreak of the disease after a period of not eating is a sign of vibrio which led me to believe it was tail rot or flesh erosion. Doesn't tail rot usually start toward the tip of the tail though? The treatment is the same for both I believe.
Tank parameters are as follows.
SG 1.025
Nitrate 3mg/l
Nitrite 0, Ammonia 0
Other tankmates are 7 reidi, in a 48 gal 2' cube all reidi about 3/4 ", they were in a tank with Diadema setosum is it possible the urchin damaged them accidently! Now in a tank with plastic seagrass, rubber acropora, good flow but 4" pipes to hide in.
Has not fed for a day.
Have seperated in pastic pots at the moment floatong on the surface, just checked the reidi in question and it seems to be clearing up already????????????????????????????????
Preparing an RO bath at the right temp as we speak, will dip for 8/20 mins, due to urchins in my system cannot use remedies at the moment.
SG 1.025
Nitrate 3mg/l
Nitrite 0, Ammonia 0
Other tankmates are 7 reidi, in a 48 gal 2' cube all reidi about 3/4 ", they were in a tank with Diadema setosum is it possible the urchin damaged them accidently! Now in a tank with plastic seagrass, rubber acropora, good flow but 4" pipes to hide in.
Has not fed for a day.
Have seperated in pastic pots at the moment floatong on the surface, just checked the reidi in question and it seems to be clearing up already????????????????????????????????
Preparing an RO bath at the right temp as we speak, will dip for 8/20 mins, due to urchins in my system cannot use remedies at the moment.
pledosophy
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It is possible it was the urchin. They are not the best tankmates IMO.
I'd try to put some neosporin on there.
The lower temp will really help slow the growth and help to prevent a bacterial infection if it is a wound. I would still order the meds as they might take awhile to get to you.
Keep a cloe eye. That looks more bactrial then like a wound to my untrained eye.
I'd still post on seahorse.org to get the seahorse medical experts opinion. Especially with that many reidi, I would want to be sure it is not bacterial before you have to end up treating all of the horses.
I'd try to put some neosporin on there.
The lower temp will really help slow the growth and help to prevent a bacterial infection if it is a wound. I would still order the meds as they might take awhile to get to you.
Keep a cloe eye. That looks more bactrial then like a wound to my untrained eye.
I'd still post on seahorse.org to get the seahorse medical experts opinion. Especially with that many reidi, I would want to be sure it is not bacterial before you have to end up treating all of the horses.
Hi pledosophy,
Have isolated the infected reidi and treating with copper at the moment, will order the other treatments for the future. Lowered the temp of the tank to 20'C all the other reidi seem fine, not showing any of the signs that the other 1 has.
Registered with Seahorse.org and someone else has had the same problem so didn't need to post on there.
Thanks for your advice will order some neosporin for the future, and in retrospect pretty daft putting the reidi with urchins.(thought that they must bump into then in the wild so can deal with them). However the wild and a 100gal tank are a wee bit different.
Thanks for the advice
mokarran
Have isolated the infected reidi and treating with copper at the moment, will order the other treatments for the future. Lowered the temp of the tank to 20'C all the other reidi seem fine, not showing any of the signs that the other 1 has.
Registered with Seahorse.org and someone else has had the same problem so didn't need to post on there.
Thanks for your advice will order some neosporin for the future, and in retrospect pretty daft putting the reidi with urchins.(thought that they must bump into then in the wild so can deal with them). However the wild and a 100gal tank are a wee bit different.
Thanks for the advice
mokarran
ReefNutPA
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7363095#post7363095 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mokarran
Have isolated the infected reidi and treating with copper at the moment, will order the other treatments for the future.
mokarran
Why are you treating with copper?? This is not a parasite issue and could be doing more harm than good. Seahorses are very sensitive to copper and it is not a recommended med....even when parasites are suspected.
Tom
pledosophy
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I agree with Tom.
ALso you shouldn't have to order neosporin. It's probably available at your local grocery store. It's an ointment to put on cuts to make hem itch less and heal faster. It is made for humans.
ALso you shouldn't have to order neosporin. It's probably available at your local grocery store. It's an ointment to put on cuts to make hem itch less and heal faster. It is made for humans.
The reason I treated with copper was due to info about fish diseases by Gerald Bassleer, also in the absence of any of the treatments you mentioned not actually being readily available in England in our shops, you have to get it on prescription from a local vet. The type of copper cure Im using is low dosage and covers a multitude of ailments.
I also looked on Seahorse.org and somebody else was having a similar problem, they have tried the treatments you mentioned along with force feeding, not sure of the outcome yet though.
The good news is all my other reidi are absolutely fine.
Thank you for your advice though.
I also looked on Seahorse.org and somebody else was having a similar problem, they have tried the treatments you mentioned along with force feeding, not sure of the outcome yet though.
The good news is all my other reidi are absolutely fine.
Thank you for your advice though.
pledosophy
Active member
Available in shops no, available usually. Like I said if you need help with the meds I might be able to help. Do you?
Send me a PM here, or a PM to me as "Kevin" on seahorse.org
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