Haddoni Anemone possible with this setup?

Cahooligan

Cahooligan

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I have a 75 gallon reef. Its been up for 6 months or so. I have a 4 bulb fixture with individual reflectors. I want to add an anemone for my mated occelaris clowns, and from what I've learned...a haddoni is the way to go. All of my params are correct(except strontium and I wouldn't get the anemone until everything is perfect). From what I've learned...they are mostly sand dwellers.( I have 1-2 inches of live sand)...ill be looking to clear a spot by moving some stuff to make a decent sized spot for the anemone in the sand. I'm looking for one that won't move around much, or at all, and I read that "usually" they stay put. Let me know if my setup is good enough along with any suggestions/care requirements. Thank you for any info.
 
You might need to go with a little deeper sand bed. But I always run about a 4" sand bed in all of my tanks that I have ever keep.
 
What bulbs are you running? (( though to be honest, I have only used T5's for supplemental, all of mine are under MH )).

What are your water parameters? (( with numbers ))

How much flow do you have?

What all do you have in the tank fish wise?

Ocellaris aren't naturally hosted by Haddonis, so there is no guarantee that they will be hosted by one.

As for the sandbed depth, that is borderline too shallow. All of mine are kept with 2+ inches -- they can/will completely withdrawal into the sandbed.

Should also note, that they (( haddonis )) are known fish eaters -- I have had good luck over the 10+ years that I have been keeping them, but that isn't the norm.
 
Bulbs: 2 10k, 2 actinics
Params: cal 460, mag 1280, nitrate/nitrite/ammo 0/0/0, salt 1.025, temp 80, phosphates .1, alk 8dkh, ph 8.2
There is a decent amount of flow, and where I intend on putting it there would be moderate flow.
As for fish I have: mated occ clowns, a yellowtang, squarespot anthia, scooter blenny, yellow coris wrasse, and a purple pseudo. I know there is a good chance they will eat fish, and I'm mostly concerned about the blenny, but I guess its worth it. And I understand about the live sand. I would need more.
 
Bulbs: 2 10k, 2 actinics
Params: cal 460, mag 1280, nitrate/nitrite/ammo 0/0/0, salt 1.025, temp 80, phosphates .1, alk 8dkh, ph 8.2
There is a decent amount of flow, and where I intend on putting it there would be moderate flow.
As for fish I have: mated occ clowns, a yellowtang, squarespot anthia, scooter blenny, yellow coris wrasse, and a purple pseudo. I know there is a good chance they will eat fish, and I'm mostly concerned about the blenny, but I guess its worth it. And I understand about the live sand. I would need more.
 
Lighting is fine. I kept mine under power compacts for years with no problems. Not sure how much luck you'll have with the clowns though.
 
I tried two different occ. with no luck at all. Finally ended up going with Clarki. Dove right in.
 
I have only lost 2 fish to my Haddonis over the years, and one was a Mandarin dragonet -- so I wouldn't count on your scooter "blenny" (( actually a dragonet )) making it.
 
Haddoni's are not the natural host of ocellaris. Because its not their natural host, it may take several months for them to even notice the anemone is even there. So, don't be shocked if they don't just dive right in. The ocellaris may choose this anemone as a host but the host could badly sting the ocellaris or eat them. I have seen pictures of ocellaris with bad stings on them or being eaten by a haddoni.

Natural hosts for Ocellaris are Magnifica, Gigantea, and Mertensii

Magnifica's and Gigantea's are difficult anemones..They need fully established aquariums.

Mertensii's are just hard to find and they get huge.
 
You could try an M.Doreensis (LTA)..I have seen ocellaris in this anemone. LTA's prefer to be in the sand and they tend to not want to move around either. I have a purple LTA the one you see in my avatar. I placed it in a spot in my 120g two years ago and its still in that same spot. Again its not a natural host, so it could take a while for ocellaris to move in to an LTA.
 
My ocellaris pair are hosting in a Green bubble tip anemone. They had no interest in it for a couple weeks but then moved in.
 
BTA's will move around and find a spot they like...so just cover your powerheads and intakes and you'll be fine.

Occs do well in BTA's...I have 10 RBTA's and my b&w's go back an forth!
 
I got a lot of coral so bta is sort of out of question as it might take residence in a major area or on the glass or kill coral
 
Bubble-tips moving regularly is a common thought that I believe is improperly propagated. Do they have a tendency to move a little? Perhaps. But IMHO they are moving in an attempt to find conditions more properly suited to their liking. Be it water quality, lighting, flow, good hole for their foot etc, something isn't quite right with their current conditions and they don't realize that the tank is very finite in size - whereas on the reef they could move large distances potentially to find a more suitable position. I have had many BTA's that have never moved once their spot in the tank was found. Then I merely aquascape the corals around them and move corals if the nem gets too big.

That all said, they can move a bit initially when finding their "spot" assuming all other conditions are acceptable.

As others (Todd) have said, Haddoni's are known to be agressive and can eat fish quite readily. The one I have in my tank currently has been known to eat three b/w ocellaris. I would consider this the exception rather than the rule (eating clownfish), but any other fish in the tank is in danger.
 
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