Halides vs. T5's

fender4string

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I'm a FOWLR guy so I haven't spent a lot of time looking at lights. I'll be getting into coral eventually (i.e. once I have money :) ) and was wondering which lighting system is better: halides or T5s?

By "better," I guess I mean most beneficial to corals.
 
Either will work.

Halides are a stronger single point source light. You'll get "shimmer" lines. They are also hotter, so you may need a chiller. Unless you're going to have all SPS then you don't "need" halides.

T-5's you can get better color combos IMO. The bulbs last longer and don't shift color as fast.

It's really what you like. I went from Power Compact, to Metal Halide to T-5s.
 
So neither bulb really has the advantage over the other? I was told by someone at an LFS that the shimmer effect of halides was more beneficial to coral growth as each shimmer offered a "punch" of high intensity light-truth or crap?

I had noticed that T5s tend to give better color so I was leaning toward those because of that. I do like the shimmer though :).
 
Well, assuming I convert my current tank into a reef once I upgrade, it's 22 inches deep (48X18X22).

Why are halides better for deeper tanks?
 
with t5 you can get a mix of colors. you can have your 65k your 20k your 10k you get the picture. t5 are cooler and you wont have to worry about heat. but imo mh are stronger. that shimmer is better is total crap. throw that thought out the window. mh are better for depth bc they can penetrate the water deeper. simple. if heat is an issue go with t5, if not go with mh.
 
this is like asking whats a better sandwich ham or turkey...theres no real answer. best bet is to go look at each set up and see what you like better. check out a few nice highend local fish stores and get an idea for your taste because both will do the job and the corals will thrive under either lighting senerios.
 
Actually t5s not penetrating is a myth the penetrate just as well as MH just without the hot spot..
 
Thanks for all the responses guys.

spscrackhead-I kinda figured the "shimmer power" was BS. That LFS hasn't been the best source of information so when given advice mostly I smile, nod, and run home to check on RC :D.

Based on the little I had heard about both and the advice you guys gave (i.e. can't go wrong) I'll probably start looking into T5 fixtures. Shimmer is sweet but the color that I've seen on tanks with T5s are sick.

I'm actually thinking about going T5 on my current 85 gal FOWLR setup just for the sake of it being brighter and better colored. I'm just running some power compacts (160 W total) and it's not cutting it :).

Again I appreciate the input
 
GSM - I have 54Watt T5 and 250 Watt MH. 5x more watt does not = more depth? 5 T5s would work like one MH? Is there something published you can point me towards? I am interested in proving to myself your statement is correct. I have deep tanks and thought I was stuck with MH.

My wife likes shimmer...so I maybe!
 
Don't spread rumors that T5 can't keep SPS, I do so w/ success as do many many others. Several TOTM have shown that too.

T5 is cheaper for a fish only tank and will work fine.
 
i belive that it is all personal preference i myself love the look of mh and will probably never go away from them now my friend has all t5s and has a very nice reef as well keeping some sps. i think that there is more to it than just t5 or mh. alot comes into play when talking about par values and how deep lights will penitrait. most important is water clarity. also what type of reflectors......... so like stated above go and look at tanks with mh and tanks with t5s and buy the fixture that you like the most.
 
I run 4x Radium 20k 250w Halides, 4x 54w Blue+ T5s, and 2 160w URI Super Actinic 03 VHOs over my tank.... so my answer is all of the above.

I love the shimmer and the brightness of the halides, I love the color a T5 blue plus bulb puts out, and I love the actinic a good old VHO puts out. The combo is excellent and I think I have now found my bulb combo after 3 years of mix and matching.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14868905#post14868905 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fender4string


spscrackhead-I kinda figured the "shimmer power" was BS. That LFS hasn't been the best source of information so when given advice mostly I smile, nod, and run home to check on RC :D.


That's proof that you're THINKING!

There are very, very, very (^1,000) few times that I trust what the LFS says.

There is ONE LFS in my county I trust. ONE. They have a very nice "Fish Room" (some folks in my area will know what I am saying).




Now that being said, I prefer the LOOK of metal halides, but the ECONOMY of T5.


Halides give a powerful point-source of light which gives the shimmers. T5's give a much more even lighting that actually (to my eyes) appears much brighter than MH since it's spread out more evenly.

Halides run a lot hotter, which can lead to temp headaches. T5's on a tank your size probably won't cause any heat issues. On my tanks, the T5's raise the temp by 2-3 F.

Halides tend to shift spectrum quicker than T5's and most folks seem to replace them every 8-9 months. Higher quality T5's can go a year (some say longer) before needing to be replaced.


Halides give you a few color options, T5's give you nearly limitless color options. You can change the whole look of your tank by replacing one or two $20 bulbs rather than all of your $80 Halide bulbs.



I run only T5, but then again look at my tanks, a 10 and a 20.



It really will boil down to personal preferences. Go and visit other reefers, visit the LFS, and look at their tanks and see what you like.
 
A combo was something I had considered. I wasn't really sure that this was an option as I've really only seen (or at least to my knowledge have only seen) Halides with actinic supplementation.

tkeracer619-do you have any pictures of how you set up your lights or maybe a link to a thread in which you previously posted pictures? I'd like to see how you did that.

Also I've always heard that halides are a "point source" of lighting. I understand the concept but what benefit (if any) does that have on light output/power/intensity?
 
How do you control dimming Harry?

Fender - That combo is old school...newer MH are plenty blue with out help. This frees up space for whatever we want. When I started we had 175W 6500k with 03 PCs...old way to do clams and sps.

I have 10k 50/50 WT/BL T5s I run off of Proflix. True 0 to 100% sun rise, then MH kicks in.

The thing we noticed is the additional T5 lighting in very front of tank made entire tank look more 3d - I think there is now white light into lower rock than old 03/07 PC lighting.
 
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