Help! Durso, Bean, Herbie- i dont know
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daplatapus
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Not sure how you'd pull of a BA in that overflow. I'm running herb's on all mine and there is zero noise and IMHO, just as safe.
DivingTheWorld
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To meet flow and sound requirements, I'd say Durso is out. That leaves Herbie & Bean. IMO Bean is best if you have the space, but Herbie is a close second. Based on your current holes, it looks like a Herbie with two returns. But...that looks like Acrylic and it would seem drilling a 3rd drain would be easy enough to make a Bean.
Really awesome tank design by the way!
Really awesome tank design by the way!
bmullikin1
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would run the herbie, should be able to handle that kind of flow as your drain holes look larger than 1"
deansreef
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Drains are 1.5"
woodnaquanut
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Why is that?
I run a BA thru the bottom of an external OF, which is just about the same as the OP's OF. Works great.
If you don't want to do any drilling, I'd stay with a Herbie. It is less safe and not as forgiving with adjustments but does work good. The other holes I'd use for a return and a chase for wires to the power heads.
If you could put more holes in, I'd expand one to match the other two and go BA. Then if you are really into it do a center hole for wire chase. Consult with 'Floyd R Turbo' to see if this is safe.
Will it be visible from all sides? It's a cool tank and should look beautiful.
I just read your other thread. If it's still at the builder, ask them about the possibilities.
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daplatapus
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LOL, I bet thousands of people have herbies running for years and none have been flooded. I've been running 3 of them for 3 years and I've NEVER had even my main siphon get plugged, never mind my 1 1/2" safety. I'm not even sure what the heck would plug my 1 1/2" safety.
But, I did do something a bit different with mine. My main siphon standpipe is a pipe that extends up to about 2" from the water surface and capped. Then I drilled a wack of 3/8" holes in the pipe. It's all but impossible for anything big enough to plug the main siphon to get into it.
While I would agree that the BA is better, I'd say the benefits of it are slight and not much to lose sleep over.
But you will always find the loudest proponents of one method those who think it's the ONLY way anyone should EVER do something.
But, I did do something a bit different with mine. My main siphon standpipe is a pipe that extends up to about 2" from the water surface and capped. Then I drilled a wack of 3/8" holes in the pipe. It's all but impossible for anything big enough to plug the main siphon to get into it.
While I would agree that the BA is better, I'd say the benefits of it are slight and not much to lose sleep over.
But you will always find the loudest proponents of one method those who think it's the ONLY way anyone should EVER do something.
bmullikin1
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agree, been running herbie on many tanks over the last 6-7 yrs, never had a back up, or flood, as long as your overflows arent too big, and use a cover over the top of the overflow, you should be fine.
If you do a herbie correctly it is 99.9% failsafe, and completely dead silent.
I run one on a DSA neo 105 and my tank is completely silent. I can stand over my tank in the evening and the only noise I hear is my radion fans. I built the system to be as quiet as possible (skimmer, dc pump internal powerheads etc.)
The one downfall to the herbie that I have found is that to really get it 100% silent you can't run a reactor manifold off of it. You will want constant, non fluctuating return pressure all of the time. how you tune the slow "trickle" of the emergency pipe is what makes the set up truly silent or not.
I run one on a DSA neo 105 and my tank is completely silent. I can stand over my tank in the evening and the only noise I hear is my radion fans. I built the system to be as quiet as possible (skimmer, dc pump internal powerheads etc.)
The one downfall to the herbie that I have found is that to really get it 100% silent you can't run a reactor manifold off of it. You will want constant, non fluctuating return pressure all of the time. how you tune the slow "trickle" of the emergency pipe is what makes the set up truly silent or not.
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