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Captainfester
Master of the Sea
because people dont like the answer ( the truth ) so they go looking for someone who will back up the easy way out. aka miracle potions, garlic, wait and see.
ich sucks. im battling it now, but with copper in a seperate tank and leaving the display for 8 weeks. maybe go to 9 weeks just in case.
reefboarder
Intelligent Donkey
I'm going to go out on a limb here and try to voice my experience with ich, the only method I chose to try was removing the fish, per gmaquariums advice put them in a quarantine environment for 9 weeks with hyposalinity somewhere in the range of 1.019-1.021 I can't remember specifically it's been a year or better. The main tank was thereby void of any fish for said period of time and i have not had any issues since doing this; all fish are healthy and happy.
And just because I can't resist anymore, this OP has caused more problems between us in the past month than I have seen here in three years! He either really enjoys stirring us up, or he just simply cannot be helped! I have seen too many decent folks fall into this and end up at one another's throats and I simply feel like it needs to stop. He posts and posts and posts these questions IMHO to get people to respond in a manner which is unbecoming of us as a group ( URS ) and then someone else takes offense to said response and so on, so I'm asking everyone here to just please take a deep breath and let's get back to what we love ( the reason were all here by the way) talking about reef tanks, sharing opinions, experiences, and pictures, and put our attitudes away please. (end rant)
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Dex
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And just because I can't resist anymore, this OP has caused more problems between us in the past month than I have seen here in three years! He either really enjoys stirring us up, or he just simply cannot be helped! I have seen too many decent folks fall into this and end up at one another's throats and I simply feel like it needs to stop. He posts and posts and posts these questions IMHO to get people to respond in a manner which is unbecoming of us as a group ( URS ) and then someone else takes offense to said response and so on, so I'm asking everyone here to just please take a deep breath and let's get back to what we love ( the reason were all here by the way) talking about reef tanks, sharing opinions, experiences, and pictures, and put our attitudes away please. (end rant)
Cheers,
Dex
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reefboarder
Intelligent Donkey
Forgot to mention
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Aaron my offer of 75 still stands on the clams ( just sayin)
Forgot to mention
Aaron my offer of 75 still stands on the clams ( just sayin)
mr86mister
Saltaholic
Hmmmm....lots of reading. Thanks everyone for some sound advice.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and try to voice my experience with ich, the only method I chose to try was removing the fish, per gmaquariums advice put them in a quarantine environment for 9 weeks with hyposalinity somewhere in the range of 1.019-1.021 I can't remember specifically it's been a year or better. The main tank was thereby void of any fish for said period of time and i have not had any issues since doing this; all fish are healthy and happy.
The nine weeks without fish should have cleared the display. Cysts have been known to remain viable for 72 days in one study but that was in cool water.
The 1.019 to 1.021 might slow some strains of ich or even lead some to die but not all strains will . It's pretty high as hypo. Crytocaryon can live even in brackish water. Many can adapt to very low sgs generation by generation and they have a new generation every two weeks or so. They seem to have a broad range of tolerance for sg variation as far as organisms that can't osmoregulate go. Velvet ( amyloodinium) does even more so and hypo has no effect on it.
Hypo is typically, done at 1.009/1.010 ,just one point above the fish's internal sg.Even then some strains survive.
It's possible your fish acquired a partial immunity developed by the initial exposure , then were sheltered a bit in the qt with a slowed life cycle for the ich due to the lower sg.
Maybe you got lucky and left all the parasites behind. Sometimes tank transfer works with just one transfer . 4 is the usual method..
Have you introduced ich free new specimens to the tank since the treatment?
BTW I don't think the OP stirred anything up in this thread.
The nine weeks without fish should have cleared the display. Cysts have been known to remain viable for 72 days in one study but that was in cool water.
The 1.019 to 1.021 might slow some strains of ich or even lead some to die but not all strains will . It's pretty high as hypo. Crytocaryon can live even in brackish water. Many can adapt to very low sgs generation by generation and they have a new generation every two weeks or so. They seem to have a broad range of tolerance for sg variation as far as organisms that can't osmoregulate go. Velvet ( amyloodinium) does even more so and hypo has no effect on it.
Hypo is typically, done at 1.009/1.010 ,just one point above the fish's internal sg.Even then some strains survive.
It's possible your fish acquired a partial immunity developed by the initial exposure , then were sheltered a bit in the qt with a slowed life cycle for the ich due to the lower sg.
Maybe you got lucky and left all the parasites behind. Sometimes tank transfer works with just one transfer . 4 is the usual method..
Have you introduced ich free new specimens to the tank since the treatment?
BTW I don't think the OP stirred anything up in this thread.
reefboarder
Intelligent Donkey
I know for certain that I went off g's recommendations and I'm probably guilty of posting an inaccurate sg that I used, I have since added known ich free fish and have had no signs since tearing my tank apart close to two years ago now
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