HELP. Ich
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do you have live coral? if not I would just treat the whole tank with copper and drop the salinity some
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[edit: from Sk8r: NEVER copper your dt: that will kill the bacteria you cycled to get, plus linger on. Take the fish out and leave the tank fishless for 72 days.]
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[edit: from Sk8r: NEVER copper your dt: that will kill the bacteria you cycled to get, plus linger on. Take the fish out and leave the tank fishless for 72 days.]
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gone fishin
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I personally would not treat the DT with copper.
Your options are to either remove all the fish and treat them with Tank transfer method(TTM), copper or hyposalinity. My preferred method is to use TTM, there is a sticky above the big red arrow on the new to hobby page and multiple stickies in the fish disease forum. In addition you would need to leave the DT fishless or fallow for 72 days.
Your other option is to try and manage the ich in the DT by good diet and low stress environment. but, the ich will remain in the tank. good luck just my 2 cents.
Your options are to either remove all the fish and treat them with Tank transfer method(TTM), copper or hyposalinity. My preferred method is to use TTM, there is a sticky above the big red arrow on the new to hobby page and multiple stickies in the fish disease forum. In addition you would need to leave the DT fishless or fallow for 72 days.
Your other option is to try and manage the ich in the DT by good diet and low stress environment. but, the ich will remain in the tank. good luck just my 2 cents.
I guess I forgot to mention it will kill inverts. I have only had fish only tanks and haven't had to deal with the invert part of having ich? is there any reason other than the inverts/corals you wouldn't treat the DT?
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:edit: sk8r---your filters are the bioactive part, most likely, different from a reef which has bioactivity only in rock and sand; copper is a poison that kills little things faster than it kills big ones, which is how it works---but it's also lethal to some fishes. There are other ways to treat ich, including TTM (moving from tank to tank with filter pads that get tossed.) Your tank is working on the principles the hobby used back at the start, and it can work, but it depends on maintenance. A rock/sand tank doesn't use filters, but depends on high flow and bacteria in the sandbed to process waste, so that there's no filter-cleaning or replacement. Both tank styles work fine, but the best protection for both is qt with ttm before letting a fish into the system.]
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gone fishin
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I will assume we are still referring to copper treatment. In addition to the inverts it could be very difficult to maintain a therapeutic dosage in a DT with the Rock and sand. Either could adsorb the copper lowering the dosage and in effect rendering the treatment ineffective. just my 2 cents worth.
Also, depending on the size of the DT a large amount may be needed to achieve and maintain a therapeutic dosage
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anthonys51
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how big is your tank and how many fish in the tank.
mpyers
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65g DT with 30g sump. 4 fish. Two clowns, a hippo tang, and a mandarin dragonette.
Hippo tang is the only one showing signs of illness at this time. BTW I know the tank is too small for him. I plan on upgrading before he outgrows it. He is only about 2" long at this time.
I think I'm going to try the ttm. Are a couple 10g tanks enough for QT? Do I need live rock for the QT? I have some extra, but it's dry a the moment so it probably wouldn't do me any good.
Also the spots appear white on the black portion of him, but appear black on the blue portion of him. Is this normal?
Hippo tang is the only one showing signs of illness at this time. BTW I know the tank is too small for him. I plan on upgrading before he outgrows it. He is only about 2" long at this time.
I think I'm going to try the ttm. Are a couple 10g tanks enough for QT? Do I need live rock for the QT? I have some extra, but it's dry a the moment so it probably wouldn't do me any good.
Also the spots appear white on the black portion of him, but appear black on the blue portion of him. Is this normal?
anthonys51
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doing the ttm method on hippo will rid the fish of ich, but the tank will still have ich so there is a chance it will just get ich again. my hippo had ich only a few spots here and there in a week it went away. is the fish covered in ich or just a few dots. fish can if healthy overcome ich. its just when they are stress and bad water quality it will come bakc
jml1149
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If no corals in the tank, and there don't appear to be any, I would go hyposalinity on the DT for 8 weeks. Slowly drop the salinity to 1.009 and keep there for two months. You shouldn't need money, or salt, to do that either. I would start ASAP.
That mandy isn't going to make it though unless you have it eating frozen food. Don't know what hypo will do to the pod population. It's probably not going to make it either way unfortunately.
That mandy isn't going to make it though unless you have it eating frozen food. Don't know what hypo will do to the pod population. It's probably not going to make it either way unfortunately.
read this too
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2388428
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2388428
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