Help me pick my mantis

Must have been reading that wrong the whole time. Any species that would do well in a heavily lit tank and would work in with my system? With my last peacock I had a mixed reef and only about 250 watts of light on it.


O. Havanensis, look similar to peacock but used to very strong lighting in the keys and collected pretty shallow. I'm pretty sure atleast. If the water quality is good enough for sps then it should be fine for havanensis. They are fairly sensitive to parameters though, just like peacocks
 
Peacocks / O.scyllarus

Are in my opinion the most difficult to care for commonly available species, of both smashers & spearers.

Due to their abnormal requirements and attentions, the peacocks are NOT the ambassadors of the Stomatopods HARDY Resilience (that goes to the small smashers who survive live rock curing process to hitchhike into aquariums).

Things Peacocks NEED for long term survival the smaller smasher...laugh at lol.

Most smaller smashers don't even know what shell rot is and yet it's practically the main killer of peacocks in aquariums.

The lighting issue with Peacocks stems from the water itself not directly the light.

So you CAN have 400watt lights etc. IF and ONLY IF your water quality is at a level where SPS corals are growing in your system (best laymen term for what is needed for peacocks water quality).

Superior Water quality = Any lighting.
Inferior Water quality = Little / NO lighting.

This water quality stems forth from your own personal systems design or care methods, for example I personally wouldn't be putting bright lights on a peacock tank unless I had a lot of the bells and whistles in filtration (Skimmer, RODI ATO, Reactors, Refugium, etc).

However I didn't have all that but because I knew the animal then the avg joe I never kept the lights on the tank above the peacock and I also kept the peacock in a tank attached to a much larger system increasing the overall water quantity which reduced the overall speed of parameter shifts which just meant slightly better water for slightly longer periods before water changes.

Then there is the burrows...in the wild these large smashers make very large burrows, I saw a doco where a peacock was making its burrow whilst a diver followed it and after around an hour the peacocks finished burrow was the size of the diver sitting on the seafloor beside it, this is something we simply cannot replicate in an aquarium.

The burrow must have a place of UTTER DARKNESS 0 LIGHT.
The burrow must have GOOD FLOW through its entirety.

Then finally if all goes well here we come to the damned dreaded molting and it's simply stated as this....

The larger the animal, the greater the risk of something going wrong during the molt that leads to its death and who is NOT to say that better water quality & better burrow design would make for a more successful molt...

So in the aquarium peacocks tend to die one of 2 ways.
- Shell Rot (poor water & lights).
- Molting (poor water & poor burrow / bad luck).

It's easy to want to impulse buy the most colorful stomatopod that happens to be the largest commonly available smasher. :)
 
Thanks for the info guys. water quality should definitely be up to par but I don't want to risk the health of the peacock if there is a better species of mantis to go with. Ill keep looking through Roy's list and find ones that like high light. Speares are very cool so and I'm fine with jumping to something other than a smasher if it benefits the animal. I'll continue to dig. If you guys have any ideas I'd love to hear them. Should start to be able to post pics around Wednesday after the rock comes in.
 
A large chiragra is a great tank of a smasher and I find mine to be just as active as any other I have had. You could possibly consider a pseudosquilla Ciliata which may allow you to have some large fish and some hard shelled CUC, any soft bodied CUC and small enough to catch fish will be anhialated ofcourse, plus they are quite boring, wish I could trade mine in for another mantis to tell you the truth :L
 
Yeah I didn't really enjoy my P. Ciliata all that much. Gave him up to my local pet store eventually.

I'll second G. Chiragra, but in a 40 gallon tank I don't think they'd be as interesting. It would be better in a 20 gallon long or something like that.

Having the right mantis for the right size tank is really important. I had a G. Smithii in a 33 gallon long and he just got lost in there and I hardly ever saw him. He was always in the rocks.

Honestly, I'd go for a Peacock and just commit to keeping the water quality really clean. Looking at your equipment list you should be good to go. I have a 3.5" Peacock in a 40B with a skimmer and HOB refugium + LED lighting and he seems to be ok.
 
So got the tank up and running and everything is working out. My only problem is with my skimmer. I just took it off a temp system that had some lr in it. Now in the new system it is producing micro bubbles like mad. Could it be that it's in a 100% dry system. Dead sand, dead rock and, filled with to salt water. It has never done this before.

Couple things that I did different was spray paint the over flow box with black rustolium spray paint let it cure for 5 days before going into the tank. The skimmer cup isn't overflowing at all. It's just producing massive amounts of micro bubbles.
 
So got the tank up and running and everything is working out. My only problem is with my skimmer. I just took it off a temp system that had some lr in it. Now in the new system it is producing micro bubbles like mad. Could it be that it's in a 100% dry system. Dead sand, dead rock and, filled with to salt water. It has never done this before.



Couple things that I did different was spray paint the over flow box with black rustolium spray paint let it cure for 5 days before going into the tank. The skimmer cup isn't overflowing at all. It's just producing massive amounts of micro bubbles.


You
Painted the box that went inside the tank?
 
Yup I built it out of clear acrylic. Didn't want to see into the overflow box. I've done this before with pic pipe that was going into the tank so it would blend into the background with no ill effect.
 
Man there is nothing worse than waiting for a tank to cycle

Yeah that truly is the worst. You can try to speed it up with some bacterial additives. It worked for me, but not everyone recommends them. One of the many controversies in our hobby.
 
Ya I've used that stuff a couple times. Never had a bad experience just would rather not put stuff in my tanks is all. Should be tossing some fish in this week so I get this thing up and rolling.
 
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