Help me stock my new 100g?

[JaneG]

Hey all,

I'm upgrading one of my smaller SPS tanks to a 100g SPS tank with a 50g sump. :celeb2: Currently, this tank has:

2 Spotted mandarin dragonets (eating frozen from a jar)
2 Pink streaked wrasse (very peaceful, small wrasse if you haven't heard of them)
2 Tiny snowflake ocellaris clownfish

Considering this, does anyone have some cool stocking ideas? I am thinking of maybe a few of the following (but would be interested to hear your thoughts if you think any are unsuitable):

Yellow Tang

Harlequin Tuskfish (I will be removing all inverts but snails - but not sure if it would eat the 1.5'' clownfish?)

Red Sea Regal Angelfish (I have a good source for these, but I understand they don't have a great track record)

Pair of Blue Throat Triggerfish (Again, concerned it might eat tankmates - but these are planktivores?)

Psychedelic Wrasse

Thanks

 

[crobattt]

i'd get a purple instead of a yellow . tusk may be a bit too big for the tank. regals are hard to keep and i dunno if a 100 gallon is large enough, but maybe with a lot of swimming room it would be okay. idk anything about blue jaws. i think the wrasse is sort of difficult to keep, but if you know what you're doing, go for it.

 

[JaneG]

i'd get a purple instead of a yellow . tusk may be a bit too big for the tank. regals are hard to keep and i dunno if a 100 gallon is large enough, but maybe with a lot of swimming room it would be okay. idk anything about blue jaws. i think the wrasse is sort of difficult to keep, but if you know what you're doing, go for it.

Thanks for responding! I was thinking about a yellow tang mostly because I think they're a bit smaller - the purples are gorgeous though. I might not even get a Tang because I know a lot of people would disagree with keeping them in a 4' tank. As far as the tuskfish goes, I am pretty sure wetwebmedia suggested 75g plus. I would probably start with a juvenile anyway.

I've read the entire Regal Angelfish primer and I'm honestly not sure what to think. I do have an excellent source for them (the ones at my fish store are always eating and from Red Sea), but I am still kind of concerned with nipping. I'd want to wait at least 6 months to get one, but I have heard they need to be ideally the first added at the same time.

Are there any fish that you would consider a "must-have" for 100g? :lol2:

 

[nanoreefer1000]

Cardinalfish would be great. My favorites are high fin, spotted, and blue streak. All of these three have been captive bred too.

 

[Charley Diesing]

Hey all,

I'm upgrading one of my smaller SPS tanks to a 100g SPS tank with a 50g sump. :celeb2: Currently, this tank has:

2 Spotted mandarin dragonets (eating frozen from a jar)
2 Pink streaked wrasse (very peaceful, small wrasse if you haven't heard of them)
2 Tiny snowflake ocellaris clownfish

Considering this, does anyone have some cool stocking ideas? I am thinking of maybe a few of the following (but would be interested to hear your thoughts if you think any are unsuitable):

Yellow Tang I think he'll be fine. If he starts getting to big, toss him out.

Harlequin Tuskfish (I will be removing all inverts but snails - but not sure if it would eat the 1.5'' clownfish?)Heard a lot of these being agressive, and to be honest with this big of a list, you want a good CUC, hermits, etc.

Red Sea Regal Angelfish (I have a good source for these, but I understand they don't have a great track record)Just to big of a fish IMO, I'm assuming your tank is only 4' long, correct?

Pair of Blue Throat Triggerfish (Again, concerned it might eat tankmates - but these are planktivores?)These guys are going to be meat eaters, they are going to be high Bio-Load fish. You can kinda think of triggers as two fish there own size. If you got 2 then you really got 4.

Psychedelic WrasseDon't know anything about these guys, but aren't they 8" wrasses?

Over all the 4 fish you want to add are all going to get 8" plus. IMO I would only add 1 of them. Get a couple other small fish.

Thanks

 

[reef kid96]

I think a pygmy angel would go good in that tank too, maybe a flame or potters

 

[rssjsb]

I might not even get a Tang because I know a lot of people would disagree with keeping them in a 4' tank. Yeah, I wouldn't suggest it.

As far as the tuskfish goes, I am pretty sure wetwebmedia suggested 75g plus. I would probably start with a juvenile anyway.Also not recommended - these fish are too big and are an unfortunate combination of delicate and aggressive.

 

[Charley Diesing]

Agreed. I just looked up Live Aquaria Tusk fish, They say 10"+ That is a huge fish...

Look up Live Aquaria's recommendations, I think they are the best.

 

[SDguy]

How big do regal angels get? FB lists the MAX at only 9.8 inches.

 

[geaux xman]

How big do regal angels get? FB lists the MAX at only 9.8 inches.

Regal angels list at 10" max on LA.

i'm wondering in the aquarium, most people only get 7-8" max on them?

 

[JaneG]

Wow - thanks for all the responses! I am a bit confused about the Harlequin Tuskfish being aggressive and needing large aquariums though. The Advanced Aquarist article on them says that they're mild-mannered and can actually be bullied (and that they only need 60g+). This was really the fish I was hoping to get most out of the list I gave to be honest. :lmao: If someone does have experience of them being a no-no with other fish, I think I'll just get it out of my mind.

Other than that, I guess the others are pretty much a no-go. Anyone have any alternative ideas for "centerpiece" fish? :strange: I do love the idea of a Flame Angelfish, so I may have to get one of those despite the risk. I hate the idea of tearing the tank apart to catch it though - especially because I have a clam and I hear they love those in particular...

 

[Moorish_Idol]

How big do regal angels get? FB lists the MAX at only 9.8 inches.

They say they get about 10", but they NEVER will. I've done my homework on captive fish growth and it won't reach that size. 10" is actually the largest scientifically record size ever, and that's where all the max sizes come from.
So, in my theory fish that have a '"max size" over 5" won't reach the "max size" in captive tanks, unless the tank is huge, like 1000's of gallons.

I've said this before on a couple of threads......my friend has a 700 gallon tank and had a yellow tang for 14 years, which is their average life span. He only grew to be 5". And this was in a large 700 gallon tank! If you keep any fish for it's entire life time that is listed to exceed the growth of 5", you'll find this 99% of the time.

I'm not saying that they can't get that big, but it's extremely unlikely. A lot of fish growth has to do with genetics, food, and nutrician.

Now do not use this excuse to put large fish in small tanks!!!! The minimum tank size listed for fish is not entirely based on the size of the fish, but mainly on how active the fish is, how sensitive it is to water parameter changes, the best tank for the fish to live the happiest and most stress free life, and swimming room.

As for your livestock list.....yellow tang will do fine, regal should do fine, but if runs out of swimming room and gets to stressed then it has to go....I've seen regals kept successfully in 90 gallon tanks. Triggers and tusk fish.....no. Not sure about the wrasse.....IMO I would only pick 2 of the fish out the list you made.

Good luck on the new tank!!! :fish2:

 

[Shells4]

I like the Kole tang (aka Yellow eyed tang) for a 4' tank, but I think a yellow would be fine. Sometimes the yellows tend to get a bit more aggressive.

I would lean towards the dwarf angels. If you add them at the same time you could have two. We've had a lemonpeel and flame that were beautiful together. The lemonpeel would esp. be nice if you don't get the yellow tang. A golden dwarf angel is beautiful also, but more secretive than most. A bicolor angel is a med. size that might be a compromise if you have your heart set on a larger angel.

I would lean toward one or two "larger or show" fish and then have several small fish. Persoanally I like the pop of color and movement the smaller fish add to reef tanks. Anthias, dottybacks, chromis, royal gramma, possium wrasse...lots of choices in small fish.

If you get a trigger I would lean towards a Niger or a very small picasso, they tend to grow slow.