Help! My Shark Is Dying

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13007586#post13007586 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jafish26
You killed it when you put it in the sump.

That shock of new water will kill a fish quick!!!!!!!


Not to say it would not have died anyway,but you made sure when you moved it.

It should not be eating culpera.


I see many things wrong but not enough time type out the answers as I have a cast on my arm.


If you want some advice PM me with your number and I can tell you on the phone.


I know most people on this forum think I am full of sh**,
but I have more experiences with sharks and fish than most people.

That is why I do not visit this forum anymore because it gets very lame with the same question asked over and over again very boring!!!!

Chris

How an anyway does this have to do with the pictures he is trying to help with your shark that died and then you go and post some pics that has nothing to do with YOUR SHARK dying?....... All im saying is you need to chill and listen instead of fighting over the internet. I am in no way a expert at saltwater but In the last few years I have shut my mouth and listened to people even if I know they don't know as much as me, Why? because people would rather fight and say nonsence stuff instead of just listening I'm sorry but when someone offers help why would you not try and take it instead of posting some inapporprate pictures?? I understand it is happening but I'm sorry there is no way me or you can stop it and thats just the truth
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I still find the pictures plenty appropriate. They are the truth. I also think you are misinterpreting my replies. I am in no way trying to fight. I thought it sounded attacking because it starts off with "You killed it" and he told me I was doing so "many things wrong" that he couldn't even list them all with his cast. There was my logic. I realize now he truly was trying to help.
 
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lol ok well I only have one ? how do those pictures have anything to do with him telling you to call him and he will tell you how he can help? Also how do they have anything to do with your shark dying? did he/she die a similar death? I doubt it... so I will leave it at that and hope some day you will listen first
 
I edited my previous post so you can see my reason behind misinterpreting his post to be attacking not helping. I posted the pictures as a point to show that I wasn't purposely killing any animal and there are people out there who do by the millions.
 
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I think what Reefer334 is saying is that you transfered it to a different environment therefore stressing out the shark even if it had "pristine" waters. IMO,the perfect water conditions will not stress the fish. But the transfering, new environment stressed him out also. JMHO. peace bro.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13006305#post13006305 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefer334
You killed it when you put it in the sump.

That shock of new water will kill a fish quick!!!!!!!

Chris
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I have never tested the water in my fuge, but shouldn't it be the same as the DT? If not how far off could it be?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13009689#post13009689 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lendz
I think what Reefer334 is saying is that you transfered it to a different environment therefore stressing out the shark even if it had "pristine" waters. IMO,the perfect water conditions will not stress the fish. But the transfering, new environment stressed him out also. JMHO. peace bro.
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Answered while typing. Makes sense.
 
Sorry if i didnt made any sense bro. :( hehe.. Just like humans right? Even if we are in a place thats new,it has clean air and everything like that. But when we aint home, we're still somehow stressed. :( Just an opinion from a college student like me. lol.
 
I transferred her to the fuge as a last hope. At that point she was already upside down and barely breathing. I thought it could of been something in the water. The transfer is not the cause of her death, I still do not know the exact cause for certain.

I am currently thinking she died of the caulerpa toxins but it even could of been something like a stroke. Is it possible it was something natural like a stroke? Ironically my tank looks great today, especially my corals.

I didn't want this thread to blow up like this I was just looking for suggestions and I think there were some misunderstandings. Thanks everybody for the help.
 
Sorry about your shark dude. Hope you figure it out.

I understand where you're coming from. Unfortunately you gotta look at the objective and set aside the emotional aspect of it though.

Best wishes.
 
wow...your not getting much help on here... Question: did you use RO water? My guess is that it was not the calurpa (I've kept sharks with this stuff for over 8 years). No idea about the stroke, but it seems unlikely given you had just changed the water. I am guessing something happened when you changed the water; likely something in the water or a result from the water change. pH is always suspect, but given your other animals are OK, I am guessing it likely some toxin that sharks are sensitive tooo... copper?
 
Anything is possible. The point should be you didn't intend for this to happen and did everything in your power to prevent or reverse it.

I think you could have made your point without the pictures.

Sorry for your loss.
 
If it was copper, then you would have also had other reactions in the tank from other animals. I don't think you did anything wrong.
 
I've heard of people's fish having strokes, so it could be possible. Maybe it was also the longterm effects of the calurpa going sexual months ago? Being stunted to 8" doesn't sound like it can be healthy for too long. Not sure why it would happen so fast, though. I would think you'd see her getting progressively unhealthy, but who knows? Maybe like typical stunting, the insides keep growing and something popped because the body was too small? I'm very sorry for your loss.
 
What I can rule out is copper and pH. Other inhabitants are a ray, a cb butterfly, clownfish, open brain coral, maze brain, zoas, montipora, favia and 6 different mushroom species. All of them are in excellent health, maybe healthier. I would think a ray would be sensitive to the same things as my shark because of electrosensory etc.
 
The ray may not react the same as other elamo's, but the corals would have definitly bit the dust. Is there a chance he could have freaked hit the side of the tank or maybe a rock fell on him? Internal injury is one possibility (doesn't seem likely) another is a bacterial infection... those things are really nasty with elasmobranchs... one day eveything looks fine, the next day your fish is dead. In public aquariums they actually do blood draws to check for problems. I am guessing your water is fine if your other more sensitive inhabitants are doing fine.

Was your shark captive born? If not, then parasites are always a suspect, but usually you'll see some long-term wasting away of the animal.
 
It is possible but unlikely. She has lived with zoas since birth and has never even looked at them. Many people keep sharks and zoas.
 
Just like humans fish get sick and die. Could have had an anurysm or some kind of stomach problem. You never know. If all other inhabitants are fine I would say you probably just had a sick fish. I might have missed it but what size tank was this dude in?
 
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