Gogandantess
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Oh man this is terrible to hear. I've had my wipeout with velvet before as well. It is one brutal event that definitely can tear you apart about this hobby. Best of luck man! Hope the rest survive for you!
Help needed!! Urgent! Fish dying
- Thread starter sufunk
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Sorry to hear about the loss. This is exactly why QT is so important. Set up a fully cycled tank and keep any new fish in there for six disease-free weeks. It is so unfair to the other fish to put a non-QT'd fish in the tank.
There is no shortcut around it. Anything less is Russian roullette. Nothing takes the fun out of this hobby faster than a sick tank. Good luck.
There is no shortcut around it. Anything less is Russian roullette. Nothing takes the fun out of this hobby faster than a sick tank. Good luck.
sufunk
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Well, the Hippo and Blonde Naso were still alive this morning but looking really bad. Both are laying on their side, completely discolored and pale and gasping for breath.
At lunch, i'm going to run home and check on them but it doesnt look to promising based on their appearance this morning.
At lunch, i'm going to run home and check on them but it doesnt look to promising based on their appearance this morning.
NO lights ad oxygenate the QT tank.... Little stress as possible...
small alien
The fungus is among us.
At least now they are not suffering. They were likely doomed from the get go so there probably wasn't anything you could do once the disease was in place. It was just a waiting game. And now that terrible part is over. I am sure you are feeling very sad and that is okay. Feel your feelings. You are not alone. Do not be afraid.
Kahuna Tuna
Active member
Sorry to hear about the wipeout. I just read the thread and after the first post I was thinking velvet, I just cant think of anything else that can wipe out a tank so quickly with the exception of a true poisoning. After reading all of the posts I still think it was velvet, there wasn't really much you could have done. So sorry man.
NexDog: Don't Qt with any meds unless you see that the fish has a problem. Just keep the fish in a fully cycled tank and observe.
Velvet is nearly impossible to cure and the best you can do is keep it out of the DT.
Ick is easily cured in a proper QT and should only be treated for if it is there. Ammonia is the number one QT killer. The only thing that should always be treated for is flukes with a double round of Prazi Pro. I have not had a disease issue in years since following these simple procedures.
There is no easy way around this. It just has to be accepted as part of the process or suffer the consequences as detailed in this thread.
Velvet is nearly impossible to cure and the best you can do is keep it out of the DT.
Ick is easily cured in a proper QT and should only be treated for if it is there. Ammonia is the number one QT killer. The only thing that should always be treated for is flukes with a double round of Prazi Pro. I have not had a disease issue in years since following these simple procedures.
There is no easy way around this. It just has to be accepted as part of the process or suffer the consequences as detailed in this thread.
Don't agree with this and this is exactly why sufunk lost all her fish. I always treat for Ich even if I don't see it as a healthy fish can be a carrier. And from now on I'll always treat for Velvet too.
CeeGee
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Don't agree with this and this is exactly why sufunk lost all her fish. I always treat for Ich even if I don't see it as a healthy fish can be a carrier. And from now on I'll always treat for Velvet too.
agree.
It is hard on the fish but if they make it through medicated quarantine I do a large water change and observe them for a few more weeks. Then and only then are they introduced to the display. The only exception to this is when I bought some tank bred fish straight from the source. No chance for any disease there.
The biggest reason people fail and lose fish in quarantine imo is the fact that the quarantine tank is not up to specs. An established biological filter (I keep mine going with a few drops of ammonia every day when the tank contains no fish to keep the bio-filter alive), plenty of fake coral decorations and a painted bottom (makes the fish feel safe and lots of fish hate a open bottom tank it freaks them out adding stress as a result), and pristine water quality that is on par with the display. If the water isn't in pristine condition you are defeating the purpose.
given all this some fish still don't make it. They wouldn't have made it in the display either and might have gotten your other fish sick (like this case) or at ended up in a place where they couldn't be reached polluting the water in the main display.
I wouldn't throw in the towel unless you just can't afford to keep the tank going or don't like all the work involved in keeping a tank. This is a very valuable experience and one not likely to happen again as long as you run a proper quarantine set up. Up til this point you have been very lucky but sometimes luck runs out. In that case you educate yourself and beat the odds.
Good luck in whatever you choose and sorry for the loss. It happened to me once and I threw in the towel for nearly 10 years.
NexDog. If you read the thread, sufunk put a tang into her DT after only 11 days in QT. Additionally, she did this because the fish wasn't doing well in QT. Huge mistake.
How can you claim that what I originally stated was the very reason Sufunk lost all her fish? I don't understand.
How can you claim that what I originally stated was the very reason Sufunk lost all her fish? I don't understand.
RBU1
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Some people take a chance by just monitoring their fish. Others like to be certain and treat. I also agree that treating just to be safe is the wat to go. How many times have you seen fish that have had ich all of a sudden it goes away.....Well what if the fish in QT has ich but you never see it because its in the gills. Guess what your main tank now has it. If you have an established QT with PVC pipe and good water quality no reason not to treat every fish....
Inklinkerman
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Sorry sufunk. Don't let this put you off the hobby.
RBU1
Moving on Up
The trick to that is make sure the fish are eating prior to starting the copper. So put the fish in a copper free QT and wait a few weeks till the fish is eating like normal then slowly start to add copper over a week or so....
Exactly. I am following RBU1 around the boards! :love2:
RBU1
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