Help Please Coral Turning white!

[gooyferret]

I need some help please one of my SPS colonies is turning white in the middle but the ends are still the same. I have another colony that is the exact same thing and havent noticed any white on that one.

Heres some pictures:

What would be causing this change overnight? I have had the colony for over a month. Almost the entire colony has "whited" out, except the ends. None of the other SPS corals seem to be affected right now.

Any advice or help is great!

Thanks
All water parameters are good.

 

[Shane Hoffman]

Have you raised your light wattage recently or installed new bulbs????

Or moved this coral closer to your lights???

 

[gooyferret]

No it has been in the same spot for over a month, had its polyps out. I recieved it from a guy that changed his MH to cheap ebay bulbs and it browned out. It hasnt got its original color back was was showing signs of growing at the tips.

Nothing has changed in the tank that I can think of...

 

[Shane Hoffman]

That is odd...I suppose typically if its the lights the tips would be the first thing to whiye out. Its almost as iff you got a disease/bug attacking from the inside out...

Have you googled the type of coral it is along with possible causes for bleaching

such as...."possible cause for candy cane coral bleaching"

 

[gooyferret]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15240415#post15240415 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Shane Hoffman
That is odd...I suppose typically if its the lights the tips would be the first thing to whiye out. Its almost as iff you got a disease/bug attacking from the inside out...

Have you googled the type of coral it is along with possible causes for bleaching

such as...."possible cause for candy cane coral bleaching"

Thats what I thought it was strange I did notice a mucus on it yesterday and is not there today.....

Wouldnt a bug start at the bottom and work its way up though? Anyone have any suggestions on what to do? Should I move it to the sand bed?

 

[es1887]

it looks like an elk horn montipora to me. my monti caps just went through this. i had no idea what caused it, but it think it was temp. my temp was dropping about four degrees overnight. i know most people would say that this is fine, but tank usually goes through a 1/2 degree change from day to night. i would suggest braking the tips off and saving what you can, and maybe check for any abnormalities your tank might be experiencing. hopefully you can save some of it.

 

[es1887]

it was like a brown mucus almost like cyano and maybe it was, from feeding on the tissue. it looked a lot different from the rtn that acros experience, but maybe it is the monti version. it was definitely not black or white band disease, and i could not find what is was.

 

[gooyferret]

There is kinda a "algae" or something growing on part of it, that has seemed to have died, but the entire center didnt have that on it? The mucus was only on there for a day that I seen and is gone now.

I have another colony of the same coral and dont seem to have any problems right now, and none of my other monti plates seem to be affected.

Do you think I need to break the tips off? Or should I leave it and see if it continues? It almost looks as though the tissue is peeling or bubbling off the skeleton...

 

[Tajjo]

RTN Clip it! FAsT

 

[es1887]

yes clip it

 

[r-balljunkie]

your tank is less than 2 months old....hate to say it.
told ya so.

posted 05/04/2009 05:15 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14946339#post14946339 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by r-balljunkie
No SPS for 8-12 months, or you will be throwing money away.

If you want the goodies, get some nice LPS acans, scolys, dendros, zoas. NO SPS. Be patient, let your tank settle in.

Also consider getting a QT tank, since you will be stocking up on fish quickly. Make them take a pit stop in QT it only takes one crash to wipe out some serious fish. Take it from me, expensive lessons.

Did I already say no SPS?

Also, in a few months or so, think about thinning out the rockwork a bit…… the wall of death going. I find its better to have a bit of separation in your tank, for better flow pattern. You have a 6 footer, no need to stack it up like so.

Also, ditch the skimmer. get something better. i would suggest going over the rating, factor of 2


Good luck, and yes it does get expensive, but who is counting!!

c

 

[es1887]

dang

 

[gooyferret]

RTN does it spread to other corals, many articles state that it dont and some say it does?? Also some state that it only affects SPS Acros, while others have said that it also will affect LPS.

Should I just take the entire colony out since its a gonner anyways will that possibly help the rest of the corals?

 

[gooyferret]

Well today it doesnt seemed to have spread, on other corals or the one that had it initially. It still looks the same as it did yesterday, with how fast it took out the majority of the colony I would have thought it would be completely gone now.

Any thoughts?

 

[goldmaniac]

How old is this tank?

 

[runningnreefing]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15241251#post15241251 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by r-balljunkie
your tank is less than 2 months old....hate to say it.
told ya so.

posted 05/04/2009 05:15 AM

Can you elaborate on why no SPS for 8 - 12 months. Thanks.

 

[goldmaniac]

Hoping to hear from the OP on the length of time this tank has been running...

 

[Donmagic22]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15243057#post15243057 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by runningnreefing
Can you elaborate on why no SPS for 8 - 12 months. Thanks.

Because your tank needs to fully cycle and have absolutely no Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates or phospates whatsoever, if there are any, your SPS will most certainly immediately die. Also, beneficial bacterias which inhibit growth your SPS would need to use also need to develop at this time, not to mention being patient is the key to this whole hobby, it takes about 6-12 months for you to get in to your own routine and be able to tell what is going on in your tank before you can properly take care of a SPS colony. Just my 2 cents

 

[gooyferret]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15241251#post15241251 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by r-balljunkie
your tank is less than 2 months old....hate to say it.
told ya so.

posted 05/04/2009 05:15 AM

If your not going to give advice or just want to pretend you know everything.....DONT POST ON MY THREAD! This thread was started not for someones ego, but to get input and advice!

I have seen, read, and heard from many others that as long as tank is stable and isnt fluxing SPS can be kept. I have seen 30, 75, 90, 400 gallon tanks that add SPS within the first month after cycling their tanks and they look awesome!


The tank has been running for 3 months, my build thread was started a month after initial setup.

Ammonia, NitrIte were at 0 after 2 weeks of cycling.

Nitrate = 5
Phos = 0 (running GFO and fudge)
Salinity = 1.025
Temp = 80
KH = 9

These have been stable perameters since cycle was finished. Have tested more than weekly...Nothing has changed.

RTN from what I have read although their is varying opinions, dont have anything to do with a "timeline" there for 8-12 months has nothing to do with this! There has been people with tanks setup for over 6 years have this happen.

I just want advice on if it will spread from others experience?

Some say it does.....some don't. Any advice on personal experience or what you have heard is always welcome.

Please no NEGATIVE posts!

TIA

 

[luther1200]

I would frag it fast or you will lose the whole thing. And give the frags a good dip in something like Tropic Marin Pro Coral Cure.

In my personal experience it will probably spread if you don't frag it and get the dead parts out of the tank. And dip the frags. It could very easily jump to another colony. Very little is understood about how SPS bleaches sometimes, so I would act on the cautious side.