Help Stock my 200g rimless :)

[boozeman]

I think you should strive to keep stresses in and out of the tank to a minimum in order to prevent fish from jumping. By this I mean foot traffic around the tank itself. kids running around and tapping on glass ect. As for inside the tank, some of the tangs listed grow quite large and by just swimming around each other will create stress. Also the clown fish you are considering grow large and territorial creating stress as well.

 

[anbosu]

Dont hate me because your fish jumped. Im just speaking the truth

I did say usually. There are 3 main factors, Tank size, Fish personality, and tank mates. Any fish will jump if it is in small tank, if it is a skitish fish or gets scared easily, and If it has tankmates which dominate, chase, or scare the fish.

If regals arn't skittish it would almost be impossible for the fish to jump out of a large tank housed alone same goes for any non jumpy fish.

In your case i would guess another fish chased it or scared it.

I think a lot of the time we find ourselves covering our tanks due to the tanks being overstocked. If people kept 4 or 5 compatible fish in 200 gal tanks they would most likely not need covers and the living situation for the fish would be much better. Thats what i mean when i say the fish that jump most likely shouldn't have been there. I think a cover can be a cheap fix for an overpopulated tank.

I had a 75 gallon tank with two small fish in it years ago and one of them jumped. While overstocking could certainly be a reason for fish to jump, sometimes they just jump. For no reason. They are fish, they aren't exactly little Einsteins in there swimming around thinking about their next logical move. They are stimulated and they react. Sometimes that is going to cause them to jump out of the tank. I understand the appeal of the rimless look, but you can make some low profile covers that you wouldn't even notice. Or you can just risk it and possibly end up with fish jerky. Your call either way (obviously) but fish aren't dogs, you can't train them to not jump and as a result if you don't have a cover you are likely to end up with one on the floor.

 

[Sardaukar]

Dont hate me because your fish jumped. Im just speaking the truth

I did say usually. There are 3 main factors, Tank size, Fish personality, and tank mates. Any fish will jump if it is in small tank, if it is a skitish fish or gets scared easily, and If it has tankmates which dominate, chase, or scare the fish.

If regals arn't skittish it would almost be impossible for the fish to jump out of a large tank housed alone same goes for any non jumpy fish.

In your case i would guess another fish chased it or scared it.

I think a lot of the time we find ourselves covering our tanks due to the tanks being overstocked. If people kept 4 or 5 compatible fish in 200 gal tanks they would most likely not need covers and the living situation for the fish would be much better. Thats what i mean when i say the fish that jump most likely shouldn't have been there. I think a cover can be a cheap fix for an overpopulated tank.

There are literally dozens of reasons for a fish to jump, ranging from the controllable to the out of the blue (I had a fish jump once when a neighbors car backfired and the window was open - you could feel the concussion in your chest). Every fish can jump and there is no way to 100% be sure they won't. In most fish, ranging from chromis and anthias to angels and tangs, at least some aggression is going to be likely. Some fish also seem to naturally want to jump.

The overcrowding comment is confusing, as by your own standards your tank is massively overcrowded. You are almost certain to have some periodic chasing with that list of tangs. If you want to risk it or feel like you have the knowledge to ensure it doesn't happen then hey, its your money and time. When you find your <insert fish> crispy on the floor, just don't beat yourself up for it too bad because if you run with an open top, someday a fish will jump out.

 

[Ian]

Dont hate me because your fish jumped. Im just speaking the truth

No one is hating you. You have plenty of very experienced people looking out for your fish and providing proof behind the suggestions. If you don't have this tank I doubt you're speaking from experience.

Im just speaking the truth


In your case i would guess another fish chased it or scared it.

are you speaking truth or making guesses?

I think a lot of the time we find ourselves covering our tanks due to the tanks being overstocked. If people kept 4 or 5 compatible fish in 200 gal tanks they would most likely not need covers and the living situation for the fish would be much better.

Last, but not least, you're asking about keeping a bunch of incompatible large tangs in a 200 gallon but suggesting jumping comes from overcrowded, small tanks. Going off what you said, how are you not concerned about jumpers?

 

[spslove]

I think you should strive to keep stresses in and out of the tank to a minimum in order to prevent fish from jumping. By this I mean foot traffic around the tank itself. kids running around and tapping on glass ect. As for inside the tank, some of the tangs listed grow quite large and by just swimming around each other will create stress. Also the clown fish you are considering grow large and territorial creating stress as well.

Yea i would like to keep stress to a minimum. My hippo and PBT get along great and even appreciate eachothers company. I was hoping the other two would join the crowd and be cool. I might hold back on the mimic im still getting advice. Iv decided not to keep any clowns, i figure my tank will be busy enough as it is.

 

[Sardaukar]

Yea i would like to keep stress to a minimum. My hippo and PBT get along great and even appreciate eachothers company. I was hoping the other two would join the crowd and be cool. I might hold back on the mimic im still getting advice. Iv decided not to keep any clowns, i figure my tank will be busy enough as it is.

PBT's are famous for being intolerant of other tangs, being aggressive towards many fish added after them and taking on fish much larger than them. They are a stunning fish and quite reasonably priced for a beautiful tang, but they have a reputation for being absolute terrors topped only by Sohal/Clown's (and maybe purples) in the tang realm.

 

[spslove]

There are literally dozens of reasons for a fish to jump, ranging from the controllable to the out of the blue (I had a fish jump once when a neighbors car backfired and the window was open - you could feel the concussion in your chest). Every fish can jump and there is no way to 100% be sure they won't. In most fish, ranging from chromis and anthias to angels and tangs, at least some aggression is going to be likely. Some fish also seem to naturally want to jump.

No fish i have ever owned would jump out of the tank out of the blue. Yea the anthias have me worried because i know fish in schools like that tend to chase eachother around and fight for dominance. Im hoping to not see much aggression from the tangs. Currently my tangs dont show any so i am topless.

The overcrowding comment is confusing, as by your own standards your tank is massively overcrowded. You are almost certain to have some periodic chasing with that list of tangs. If you want to risk it or feel like you have the knowledge to ensure it doesn't happen then hey, its your money and time. When you find your <insert fish> crispy on the floor, just don't beat yourself up for it too bad because if you run with an open top, someday a fish will jump out.

Im hoping the tangs will get along very well if they dont i will keep a top or return the ones i dont allready own and keep my PBT and hippo topless as i do right now in my 100g.

Since i am getting mixed opinions about the anthias jumping i will keep a top on tank if i lose more then 2 in a couple years.

Overcrowding comment was just to explain that jumping is not good and due to overcrowding most of the time. Just an example so people understand why fish jump. Seems like everyone takes a general approach like "they will jump no matter what, every fish will jump, every fish has jumped". There are so many factors, EVERY situation is different, i was just pointing out a couple factors.

 

[SDguy]

Last, but not least, you're asking about keeping a bunch of incompatible large tangs in a 200 gallon but suggesting jumping comes from overcrowded, small tanks. Going off what you said, how are you not concerned about jumpers?

Because he knows exactly why fish jump, and why it will never happen to him. :lol:

 

[spslove]

No one is hating you. You have plenty of very experienced people looking out for your fish and providing proof behind the suggestions. If you don't have this tank I doubt you're speaking from experience.

What i speak is my experience. I don't understand what your saying? If i dont have a new 200g tank im not speaking from experience?

are you speaking truth or making guesses?

Are people that tell the truth not allowed to guess or other way around? I dont understand your point? Im doing both if your really confused.

Last, but not least, you're asking about keeping a bunch of incompatible large tangs in a 200 gallon but suggesting jumping comes from overcrowded, small tanks. Going off what you said, how are you not concerned about jumpers?

I am trying to figure out how compatible the tangs are in this as well as other threads. As i said i keep my Pacific blue and Powder blue in a topless 100g. I want to add tang that will get along well with them. If my tangs get along well the tank will be topless if not ill put atop on or take the extra tang back to lfs. Its not that difficult. Why should i be scared of my tangs jumping in a 200g when they dont in my 100g.

 

[spslove]

Because he knows exactly why fish jump, and why it will never happen to him. :lol:

Are you really this lame?

 

[spslove]

You dudes killing my thread with all this attitude and debate ish. Im still trying to get some good advice from the few that are trying to help.

 

[jmaneyapanda]

No, dude, you are ignoring advice on nonsensical ego. YOU know the "truth" why fish jump? Get over yourself. Youre gonna put whatever you want in your tank, despite any advice tahts given, thats now obvious. Because you KNOW. Good luck. I'll be on the lookout for your "why did my fish jump" thread!

 

[spslove]

No, dude, you are ignoring advice on nonsensical ego. YOU know the "truth" why fish jump? Get over yourself. Youre gonna put whatever you want in your tank, despite any advice tahts given, thats now obvious. Because you KNOW. Good luck. I'll be on the lookout for your "why did my fish jump" thread!

I understand you dont like rimless tanks and think my fish are all going to jump out. Why do you keep singing the same song.

Lemme tell you what i do KNOW just because you seem confused. If i transferred the fish in my 100g to 200g (Mandarin, Diamond Goby, Powder Blue Tang, Hippo) it is almost impossible for me to have jumpers. I wouldn't even make a cover. You would disagree even with no knowledge of my actual fish and their relationships. This makes it unlikely i take any advice from you when it comes to stocking rimless tanks.

I think you are wrong and you think im wrong, lets leave it at that.

jus for the record, I listen to what everyone has to say. You have been ignoring posts in this thread. Im not going to keep midas blenny and clowns as was suggested. I think thats a wise decision not to keep those extra fish. I have no problems with getting advice.

 

[tcwoodrn]

Stock whatever you want... it is, after all, YOUR TANK. There is no exact science to the aquarium game. The best part of people "hating you" is that they don't matter, you don't know them, and they don't pay for the ups and downs your tank will go through.


For what its worth, I love my midas blenny and highly recommend them. He is active and beautiful.

 

[spslove]

Stock whatever you want... it is, after all, YOUR TANK. There is no exact science to the aquarium game. The best part of people "hating you" is that they don't matter, you don't know them, and they don't pay for the ups and downs your tank will go through.


For what its worth, I love my midas blenny and highly recommend them. He is active and beautiful.

Smart words. ya midas are nice! I will def consider im just scared they will force me to run my tank with the top at all times.

 

[tcwoodrn]

Oh I forgot to mention that I run my tank without a cover. Is it possible that he will jump out? Yes. If it happens I will be disappointed, but its just one of the many risks of taking a wild animal and putting it in captivity.

 

[Ian]

Oh I forgot to mention that I run my tank without a cover. Is it possible that he will jump out? Yes. If it happens I will be disappointed, but its just one of the many risks of taking a wild animal and putting it in captivity.

Ignorant. If you have young children at your house and a pool in the backyard, would you not put a fence around it, being it wouldn't look as nice? Would you chalk it up to the fact that that's just the risk of having kids and a pool?

 

[jmaneyapanda]

I understand you dont like rimless tanks and think my fish are all going to jump out. Why do you keep singing the same song.

Lemme tell you what i do KNOW just because you seem confused. If i transferred the fish in my 100g to 200g (Mandarin, Diamond Goby, Powder Blue Tang, Hippo) it is almost impossible for me to have jumpers. I wouldn't even make a cover. You would disagree even with no knowledge of my actual fish and their relationships. This makes it unlikely i take any advice from you when it comes to stocking rimless tanks.

I think you are wrong and you think im wrong, lets leave it at that.

jus for the record, I listen to what everyone has to say. You have been ignoring posts in this thread. Im not going to keep midas blenny and clowns as was suggested. I think thats a wise decision not to keep those extra fish. I have no problems with getting advice.

This is the most ridiculously ignorant statement you have just made. "It is almost impossible for you to have jumpers"? "I dont have the knowledge of your fishes personalities"? This is absurd.

How do you know why fish jump? Do you speak to them? Before and after they jump? And you "know" your fishes personailties, relationships, and rationale, how exactly?

I do agree with you on one topic, though, we will noit agree on this matter. Your fish may or may not jump, but acting as if you have mastered fish behavior and understanding, and know the reasons for unexplainable fish behavior is quite pathetic. If you know such much about why fish jump, and know their reasons for doing so, why do you bother asking for assistance. You should just talk with the fish and ask if theyll be OK.

No need to respond. Im done with this. Good luck. I will cross my fingers for your fish.

 

[jmaneyapanda]

Oh I forgot to mention that I run my tank without a cover. Is it possible that he will jump out? Yes. If it happens I will be disappointed, but its just one of the many risks of taking a wild animal and putting it in captivity.

IBTL. :lol:

 

[sirjohn]

Stay away from the Maroon clowns! They are not only aggressive, but they will fan your sand all day long making your beautiful rimless Elos a white, soupy mess. I have them in my 92 corner and I wish I could catch them and take them out. They won't come anywhere near the 160xl I'm currently cycling. I'll probably add a couple of percs.