Herbie on 3 standpipes

I am considering a Herbie overflow but I have 3 1 1/2" standpipes (1 1/2" bulkheads). If I make one the emergency, can I put a gate vavle on the other two or do they need to be tee'd together with one gate valve? Not good with flow dynamics.
 
Why would you do that? If you have three standpipes, you have a siphon, an open channel, and a dry emergency. This is a Bean system, and it would really be a waste of your time, to use a herbie (two pipe siphon system.) Plus, you can't run two siphons with only one dry emergency, unless you have a good shop vac and good homeowner's insurance to cover the flood damage....
 
so maybe I am not totally understanding a bean system...I thought the holes had to be in the back. How would I set this up as a bean system? What mods do I need to make to do this? Would it just be one pipe with an elbow down, the next elbow up a little ways higher and the emergency a little higher than that? Do I need valves on any of them? I have spent hours reading and I just don't get the whole dynamics for some reason - especially the siphon (you responded to my other post btw - I answered a bunch of your questions...)
 
so I found this picture that I think is what you are saying...http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u675/kmishle/120g Reef Build/120gBuildRearView_zps051ab4a6.jpg

Is this how I should design it? And then I alter the flow through the one on the right to increase the height of the water above the one on the left?

Well it is close, however there are some errors in the manner in which it is implemented. All three pipes should drop into the skimmer section. Due to the interaction between the open channel and siphon they must originate in the same body of water and terminate in the same body of water. How the system in the image will behave is unpredictable.

Believe it or not, the concept of Bean's system is fairly simple. You don't need to understand the complex physics involved, to use the system. The holes do not have to be in the back of the tank. Just make three durso standpipes on the bulkheads you have, all the same height, two elbows facing down, one facing up. However, only put a hole in one of the standpipes with a down turned elbow. Put a valve on the other one (the one with a down turned elbow without a hole in the cap.) Add a air vent line to the cap of the standpipe with the hole in the cap, you are done.

You may have to read the instructions more than once, but the images included make things pretty clear. Here is an abridged version of the main thread:

http://www.beananimal.com/projects/silent-and-fail-safe-aquarium-overflow-system.aspx

All three elbows should be at the same height, varying the height is a quick fix for some implementation errors that can be avoided.
 
Run it like a Bean, I have a sort of Bean and I love it. It's basically a Herbie but with a totally dry emergency. It runs completely silent in our living room, and from my understanding the actual Bean design is even quieter.
 
I'm running a herbie my self, I have one more port still which I might use for another return, not sure yet. Once I had the valve on the siphon drain dailed in, the system runs completely silent as well. Only sound is the sound of the water cascading down the overflow, which is very quiet.

my emergency is also completely dry.
 
Run it like a Bean, I have a sort of Bean and I love it. It's basically a Herbie but with a totally dry emergency. It runs completely silent in our living room, and from my understanding the actual Bean design is even quieter.

What is 'a sort of Bean?' OR, what is "basically a herbie but with a totally dry emergency?'

A 'Herbie' has two pipes, one runs as a full siphon, the other one is a DRY emergency. A 'Bean' has three pipes. One runs as a full siphon, a second pipe runs as a 'Durso' or 'Open Channel', and the third is a 'Dry Emergency.' Both systems must run the dry emergency, it is not an addition to either system rather a requirement for safety.

If there is to be a comparison between the two, which only gives rise to mis-information and bad advice in the end, the Bean is like a Herbie, but with an additional partially flooded second pipe, running in open channel mode (not at siphon mode,) which provideds a self adjustment feature, plus an additional level of failsafety. OR the 'Herbie' is like a Bean, but without a partially flooded second pipe, does not have a provision for self adjustment, and has only one level of failsafety.

There are some that have mis-implemented the 'Herbie' due to the proliferaton of bad/mis information, and are running a siphon and a partially flooded secondary ('open channel',) to gain the self adjustment feature of the BA, leaving out the dry emergency. Many that are new to the concepts of siphon systems, are mis-led to believe that this is the way the 'Herbie' is supposed to be run. It isn't. The fact that folks run a drain system this way, does not make it safe. It isn't safe.

Any drain line with water flowing in it, regardless of how much, is a plug/flood risk. The sound adivce for running a siphon system, is: Never run a siphon drain, without a DRY emergency backup. Although the 'herbie' with a partially flooded secondary(open channel) does provide a level of backup if the main siphon becomes plugged, there is no backup if the secondary plugs, and the water will go all over the floor. Adding a dry emergency to the mis-implemented 'herbie' does not make it a 'herbie' with a dry emergency, it makes it a Bean system: not because of the dry emergency, rather because of the partially flooded secondary or open channel.

It may be unfair to keep calling the siphon w/partially flooded secondary a mis-implemented 'herbie,' so in fairness and since the BA came after the 'Herbie,' running a siphon w/partially flooded secondary with no DRY emergency, is a mis-implemented BA system...
 
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