Hoeven's Wrasse (aka melanurus)

I have 2 of these wrasses. I am not sure if one of them killed my clam or it was dead. But I did see some holes in its mantle a day or two before it died. Bite size holes.

They have not bothered snails or corals. When the anemone has shrimp in it they do try to nip at him. Other than that they stay away from the anemones.
 
I just picked up a juvenile female Friday night and now she's in QT. Dove right in the sand within seconds of adding her, but the day after she was out swimming around and eating flakes and mysis. I'm hoping she'll stay away from my cleaner shrimp and CUC once in the DT. Will it eventually turn male if kept alone?

Here's a video of her diving in the sand right after adding her.

Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tGrEvEG_kk
 
I had a Melanaurus Wrasse and two days after I bought my first clam it flipped it over and ate the foot out of it. I saw it but it was too late. I traded that bastard to the LFS and I won't have one again. Beautiful fish and you could set your clock to its sand diving routine at 7pm.
 
i love my melanurus, and have had it for about 6 months, maybe longer. it just recently made the shift from female to male, and it is definitely one of my favorite fish. it acts as a guardian to the corals and clams, and never nips at them or other fish (beyond self-defense or an occasional taste-test, at most). did notice a minor loss of small fanworms in the DT (they're still abundant in the sump), and i moved the giant featherduster and coco worm down to the refugium after introducing it because there was a mysterious feather decapitation (decoronation?) that occurred soon after, but overall a very healthy and friendly fish. i still have a clean-up crew too, though truthfully my nassarius population has dwindled somewhat. honestly, i think the dottyback was the cause of far more collateral CUC damage.

...kind of had a scare with mr. melanurus last week though. since the wrasse burrows into the sand at night, i'm used to it not being around too long after sundown, even though the blue lights are still on, but one evening last week i looked into the tank and saw the wrasse's tail hanging limp and motionless out of my crocea's mantle!

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innocent encounter, or violent violation? i suspect both parties were innocent, but only the wrasse ignorant (the clam was probably starting to choke a bit...). i was initially quite distraught, since the wrasse is awesome and the clam otherwise happy, but as i reached in and grabbed the wrasse's tail (thinking it dead...), it startled and popped out of the clam as if it had been caught doing something questionable and didn't want anybody to get the wrong impression.

it may have been whistling, i can't say.

the clam still feels traumatized, though :(
it's alive, but hasn't opened more than about a centimeter in days, and mantle extension has not been what it used to be. hopefully it'll come back relatively undamaged, despite any psychological scarring.

:thumbsup:
 
...if i had a Hoeven's...

...if i had a Hoeven's...

Clam killers! I feel its not a matter of "if", but when. My wrasse killed 2 of my clams. I walked in on him killing the second one. It found out how to flip them over and go for the soft spot on the bottom. I liked my wrasse, but I like the clams more. I still have 2 clams left.

supposedly melanurus wrasses actually don't eat the clams themselves unless they're already dying. not claiming to know the mind of the fish, but that is what i've read. people sometimes seek out Hoeven's wrasse specifically to kill the small conical pyramidellid snails that target and parasitize clam undersides.

i have had the clams (one derasa and the aforementioned crocea) for months without the wrasse bothering them. i only recently moved the crocea down to the sand though, and i admit i was surprised when i picked it up (from a rock it had been on for months) to see that it had not attached any byssal threads at all. i don't know why... but i do think that my wrasse was trying to sleep, not gag the clam. it's probably my fault for putting the crocea so close to where the wrasse normally burrows.

that said, i'm sorry to hear your wrasse was a clam tipper. and if it was a melanurus, doubly so... but i do wonder if your clams (and wistler's too) might have already been about to bite it already, and the wrasse only doing its job... one can only speculate :cool:
 
I have had mine since Friday and it came out the next day and stayed out all day. It came out for about 30 minutes the on Sunday. I haven't seem it since. I definitly think its in the sand bed but how come it came out the first two days and hasn't came out since.
 
the crocea died, about a week or so after the wrasse raped it. candlelight vigil to be held this Saturday, somewhere in the vicinity of Fiji. tickets on sale, just PM me...

Bnortz, have you seen the wrasse again yet? mine was pretty neurotic for the first week. she wouldn't leave the corner of the tank, just swimming up and down and up and down. but she calmed down and has become one of my favorite fish... gonna have to think of another name though, now that it has become a male... and killed my clam...

but anyway, if you still haven't seen yours and it was healthy, there could be an as-yet-unseen predator in your tank... maybe a fulgida worm or something... or maybe it burrowed under an unstable rock and got squished or trapped. hard to say, really. one can only speculate...
 
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I've had one for over a year- very hardy to endure some of my stupidest moments. He doesn't bother anyone, I have snails, hermits, shrimp. Eats everything- brine, mysis, pellets. He does dive in the sand every once in a while about an hour before bed time. I think just to mess with me and create a mini sand storm. An hour later he'll be tucked in for the night. I could set a clock to his schedule. Up at 8, bed by 10. I wish my son was so trained.
 
These guys get big, and have nasty teeth.

Ive had large wrasses in this genera multiple times and still do.

Heres some rules of thumb - clams (despite above picture) can be targeted.

Your fairy wrasse will probably get bullied.

And any inverts (small hermits and snails are a favorite) will have to be replaced from time to time.

I feel that some of my smaller cleaner shrimp (when I add them) meet their doom after freshly molting.

Just know you are okay 90% of the time, but you are getting a larger wrasse - and this is just what comes with the territory.
 
I'm getting one this weekend, but I have a concern...

Since they burrow in the sand at night, do you think there'll be any compatability issues with a pearly jawfish ? I wouldn't think so, but thought I would check with the wrasse experts.
 
These guys get big, and have nasty teeth.

Ive had large wrasses in this genera multiple times and still do.

Heres some rules of thumb - clams (despite above picture) can be targeted.

Your fairy wrasse will probably get bullied.

And any inverts (small hermits and snails are a favorite) will have to be replaced from time to time.

I feel that some of my smaller cleaner shrimp (when I add them) meet their doom after freshly molting.

Just know you are okay 90% of the time, but you are getting a larger wrasse - and this is just what comes with the territory.

Arent these the same species as a yellow coris and mystery wrasse? I have all 3 in my tank and not a single one has done any of the things you are mentioning.
 
Species? No.

Canary Wrasse = Halichoeres chrysus (same genus)

Mystery Wrasse = Pseudocheilinus ocellatus
 
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