Homes for Sale with Custom Reef Tanks

SReef

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I thought I would post this in the large reef tank area. Do any of
you know if either reefcentral or any other site has a section of
homes for sale that come with custom reef tanks? Just thought it might be an interesting topic as everyone knows that moving a large custom tank from one house to another can be tough. The other think is that people who enjoy this hobby my be apted to purchase a house based on this alone. Please let me know what your thoughts are.
 
too narrow of a market, the odds of finding a reefer that happens to like the home, let alone the tank, is very small
 
Elliot,

The reason I thought of this was that I have to been to fellow reefers homes that have 250+ gal. tanks that they did a wonderfull job putting together, and if they had to move, it would be an undertaking just to break down the tank and restore the home to the existing condition. The other problem is that if a person is going to move into the home and take on the upkeep of the tank they either have to contract someone to service it or they would have to have a working knowledge of how to keep a reef tank viable.
 
Maybey some of our fellow reefers can voice any of the issues that they ran into when selling there homes with a large tank or if anybody has bought a home because their was a current tank installed.
 
i would also like to hear what people did with thier homes that had tanks inwall. My 125 is in wall and I would love to know some options on what to do when the time comes to sell.
 
Since I started building my in-wall 240 gallon with fish room, I have been wondering this. I know how much of a pain it was to move my 90 gallon stand-alone. I cannot even imagine how much of a pain this will be to move. I would think that there is too small of a market for a home with a reef, and that it would be more likely to detract from the value if the home wasn't restored to its original condition.
 
Getting ready to go through this myself. I have two inwall tanks in my current house. I'll probably give the buyer the option to buy them (extra) or I will yank them out and put them in my new house or sell them.
 
I watched a show on HGTV and they were talking about adding value to a home. They were going through some higher end homes and one of the value adders was a large aquarium. This one happened to be in a kitchen. Like stated above though the market of home buying reefers is very small. I have seen a few Large setups that were sold with homes turned into goldfish tanks.
 
Nauticac4,

I would think the value add part would be if the buying party thinks it adds value. Like you said if the current buyer has no idea what they are doing they may get frustrated and turn it into a Gold Fish tank. I guess I would like to think that we will all grow old in the house we live in now wtih our reeftank, but the reality is that some of us may need to move for various reasons. The question will be how do we deal with that giant tank in the house.
 
for me personally it would be terrific to buy a home with a large reef tank built in. however it would be my guess that for the average buyer a built in tank would be viewed as a negative
 
My house was on the market 2 years ago because I was going to get married..... I smartened up and bailed on the marriage and kept my house.
At the time, I have my 180 with basement sump in the living room. I had a couple of people who wanted to buy the tank and keep it in the house and a couple of people who wanted nothing to do with it.

So, like others have said...... you have to find the right buyer......

I can't wait to see what happens when I take down the 180 and build my 600g in wall with 200g sump!!!!
 
I'm planning a very large built in tank as well, fully realizing I may have to remove it and do some dry wall when I sell, oh well, so be it!:D
 
You can always just leave the tank in the wall and drywall right over top of it if you don't want to move your tank. It would be a shame, but it's certainly an option I've thought about if it comes to that.
 
FWIW here is an article from the Wall Street Journal Re: Selling homes with Saltwater - Just a different perspective: [sorry pics wouldn't post ]

Huge Saltwater Fish Tanks
Bring the Sea Inside


By Kelly Crow
From The Wall Street Journal Online
On a half-built lot in East Moriches, N.Y., on Long Island, visualizing the final layout for David and Valerie Cohen's new Spanish villa can be a challenge. An easier task: spotting the Cohens' 8,500-gallon saltwater aquarium. The tank's acrylic shell, designed to hold a Sea World's worth of fish, already rises three stories high, and will be cleaned by a scuba diver.
"We won't have to go to a public aquarium after this," says Mr. Cohen, 38 years old, a beauty-supply importer who is spending about $400,000 on the tank.
From a New Jersey businessman building a 20-ton coral reef in his cigar room to the rock singer who bought Shaquille O'Neal's home for its predator tanks, some fish-loving consumers are starting to create at-home versions of Atlantis. Inspired by resort aquariums and spurred by technological advances in the $3 billion aquarium industry, homeowners are building megatanks in unconventional shapes like arches and racetracks. They're also shopping for equally exotic -- and pricey -- fish and coral. Meanwhile, sharks and piranhas have become so popular as pets, the Monterey Bay Aquarium says owners now call at least once a week offering to donate fish species that have gotten too big.
While most of the growth is in expensive tanks, some of this is trickling down to regular homeowners. PetsMart's biggest aquarium, which costs $475, is now 150 gallons, up from 75 gallons a few years ago; later this year, some of the retailer's stores will start stocking a 110-gallon model with upscale cabinetry for $1,000. Petco has recently expanded its line of fancy cabinet finishes for bigger tanks. Even custom builders are reaching out to a slightly broader audience: Living Color Enterprises, an aquarium company in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., has just introduced its first line of $13,000 ready-made tanks about the size of a big-screen television.
Often, the public is soaking up what it sees on visits to public aquariums and hotels. Almost half of the country's 37 aquarium attractions opened in the past 15 years, and many tout their tank size. (The Georgia Aquarium in Atlanta, which opens in November, boasts of having more than eight million gallons of water in its tanks.) More than half a dozen Las Vegas hotels have added "aquascapes" to their properties during the past few years, and about five million visitors have paid $16 a head to see Mandalay Bay's Shark Reef since it opened in 2000. The centerpiece of the newly opened Hotel Victor in Miami: a tank of jellyfish that get fed frozen shrimp by a visiting caretaker.
Bubbling Up
Americans have long been fans of fish. One in seven American households has an aquarium bubbling at home, and consumers own one-third more fish than they did a few years ago, according to the American Pet Products Manufacturers Association. But up until recently, nearly all fish tanks sold had glass walls, and maxed out at about the size of a coffee table.

Wet Bar: In Ocean Ridge, Fla., builder Frank McKinney designed a home with an aquarium incorporated into its bar.


Now, though, the industry is switching to acrylic walls, which allow for more flexibility in shape and size than glass. Casco Group, an aquarium manufacturer in Cerritos, Calif., recently bought an oven so it could heat and shape sheets of acrylic up to 28 feet long -- three times longer than its old heating methods could handle. What's more, new filter systems use bacteria-laden sand (instead of gravel), which makes it easier to sustain tank ecosystems. And chillers, which keep tank water cool, have shrunk to the size of microwaves, down from toy-chest dimensions of a generation ago.
Those developments allowed Bob and Joyce Johnson recently to install a 9-foot-long saltwater aquarium that divides their breakfast nook from the living room. "I thought it would look dramatic," says Mr. Johnson, a documentary producer in McLean, Va., who spent $40,000 on the project.
Last October, Shaquille O'Neal sold his $6.5 million house in Beverly Hills, Calif., to Japanese rock singer Kyosuke Himuro. What the singer loved best was Mr. O'Neal's two 600-gallon tanks, including one that contained eels, jacks and a 3-foot grouper named Bubba. Mr. Himuro initially kept Shaq's fish and the purple and yellow coral (inspired by the team colors of the Los Angeles Lakers), but last week had to donate the grouper to Sea World because he got too big. "The kids really miss Bubba, but I told them we'd go visit," says Mr. Himuro's wife, Mitsuyo Teranishi.
In most cases, homeowners hire an aquarist or marine biologist to design, install and stock tanks that can run anywhere from $15,000 to $1 million. Those costs can include everything from $5,000 for lightbulbs to tens of thousands for cabinetry, plumbing, wiring and lighting. The heaviest aquariums require structural support for thousands of pounds of water. And follow-up maintenance typically runs about $1,000 a month, though the price doubles if your tank is so big it takes a scuba diver to clean it.
One of the hardest jobs is keeping exotic fish alive. The popular Moorish Idol, known for its zebra-like markings, has such a fragile metabolism, retailers call them "Blockbuster fish" -- because they can last about as long as a video rental. Furthermore, independent service crews rarely reimburse clients for dead coral or belly-up fish on the theory that nature is fickle, says Jeffrey Turner, owner of Reef Aquaria Design in Coconut Creek, Fla., who also services tanks. (To guard against tank emergencies, he has clients buy a backup generator and a computer alarm that can e-mail technicians if there's trouble).
Inspired by Anemones
Bruce Bunting's trouble came in canine form. After he installed a 6-foot-long tank in his Washington, D.C., study six years ago, Mr. Bunting's collie kept chewing the tubes and wires. Following several power outages and leaks that poured saltwater into his son's bedroom, his wife "got less interested in my hobby." So last summer, Mr. Bunting, a vice president of the World Wildlife Fund, gave away his favorite triggerfish and pulled the plug. "I got tired of being nervous all the time," he says. "But Trig was such a clever little fish."

180-gallon saltwater tank in a Huntington Harbor, Calif., home


As more non-hobbyists mull getting a big tank, aquarium companies have decided to play up new designs and cabinetry as much as the fish inside the tanks. Aquarium Environments in Houston, for example, recently replicated an Amazonian riverbank inside a tank. Mr. Turner offers homeowners the option of tanks encased in ebony, mahogany and sycamore that can cost up to $200,000. There are even artists who will create aquarium sculptures. Richard Bilow in Los Angeles, for example, produces $1,500 glass-blown sculptures that evoke the works of glass artist Dale Chihuly. "Anemones are my inspiration," he says. "So are sea squirts."
After a few visits to the Bahamas, builder Frank McKinney says he had to try adding "aquariums on steroids" in the houses he's building in Palm Beach County, Fla. "I went to Atlantis and saw what was possible," says Mr. McKinney, referring to the Paradise Island resort famous for lagoons filled with bonnethead sharks and stingrays.
Recently, Mr. McKinney equipped a home with a $250,000 aquarium that doubled as a wet bar, and featured a miniature replica of a sunken ship. The $17 million house sold in just over two months. After that, Mr. McKinney created another aquarium wet bar, but added a "Jaws"-worthy mosaic of a shark on the floor where the bartender would likely stand. It sold quickly, too -- for $7 million -- and Mr. McKinney now says he plans to include a mega-aquarium in all his homes. "People love these things," he says.
Huge Saltwater Fish Tanks
Bring the Sea Inside


By Kelly Crow
From The Wall Street Journal Online
On a half-built lot in East Moriches, N.Y., on Long Island, visualizing the final layout for David and Valerie Cohen's new Spanish villa can be a challenge. An easier task: spotting the Cohens' 8,500-gallon saltwater aquarium. The tank's acrylic shell, designed to hold a Sea World's worth of fish, already rises three stories high, and will be cleaned by a scuba diver.
"We won't have to go to a public aquarium after this," says Mr. Cohen, 38 years old, a beauty-supply importer who is spending about $400,000 on the tank.
From a New Jersey businessman building a 20-ton coral reef in his cigar room to the rock singer who bought Shaquille O'Neal's home for its predator tanks, some fish-loving consumers are starting to create at-home versions of Atlantis. Inspired by resort aquariums and spurred by technological advances in the $3 billion aquarium industry, homeowners are building megatanks in unconventional shapes like arches and racetracks. They're also shopping for equally exotic -- and pricey -- fish and coral. Meanwhile, sharks and piranhas have become so popular as pets, the Monterey Bay Aquarium says owners now call at least once a week offering to donate fish species that have gotten too big.
While most of the growth is in expensive tanks, some of this is trickling down to regular homeowners. PetsMart's biggest aquarium, which costs $475, is now 150 gallons, up from 75 gallons a few years ago; later this year, some of the retailer's stores will start stocking a 110-gallon model with upscale cabinetry for $1,000. Petco has recently expanded its line of fancy cabinet finishes for bigger tanks. Even custom builders are reaching out to a slightly broader audience: Living Color Enterprises, an aquarium company in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., has just introduced its first line of $13,000 ready-made tanks about the size of a big-screen television.
Often, the public is soaking up what it sees on visits to public aquariums and hotels. Almost half of the country's 37 aquarium attractions opened in the past 15 years, and many tout their tank size. (The Georgia Aquarium in Atlanta, which opens in November, boasts of having more than eight million gallons of water in its tanks.) More than half a dozen Las Vegas hotels have added "aquascapes" to their properties during the past few years, and about five million visitors have paid $16 a head to see Mandalay Bay's Shark Reef since it opened in 2000. The centerpiece of the newly opened Hotel Victor in Miami: a tank of jellyfish that get fed frozen shrimp by a visiting caretaker.
Bubbling Up
Americans have long been fans of fish. One in seven American households has an aquarium bubbling at home, and consumers own one-third more fish than they did a few years ago, according to the American Pet Products Manufacturers Association. But up until recently, nearly all fish tanks sold had glass walls, and maxed out at about the size of a coffee table.

Wet Bar: In Ocean Ridge, Fla., builder Frank McKinney designed a home with an aquarium incorporated into its bar.


Now, though, the industry is switching to acrylic walls, which allow for more flexibility in shape and size than glass. Casco Group, an aquarium manufacturer in Cerritos, Calif., recently bought an oven so it could heat and shape sheets of acrylic up to 28 feet long -- three times longer than its old heating methods could handle. What's more, new filter systems use bacteria-laden sand (instead of gravel), which makes it easier to sustain tank ecosystems. And chillers, which keep tank water cool, have shrunk to the size of microwaves, down from toy-chest dimensions of a generation ago.
Those developments allowed Bob and Joyce Johnson recently to install a 9-foot-long saltwater aquarium that divides their breakfast nook from the living room. "I thought it would look dramatic," says Mr. Johnson, a documentary producer in McLean, Va., who spent $40,000 on the project.
Last October, Shaquille O'Neal sold his $6.5 million house in Beverly Hills, Calif., to Japanese rock singer Kyosuke Himuro. What the singer loved best was Mr. O'Neal's two 600-gallon tanks, including one that contained eels, jacks and a 3-foot grouper named Bubba. Mr. Himuro initially kept Shaq's fish and the purple and yellow coral (inspired by the team colors of the Los Angeles Lakers), but last week had to donate the grouper to Sea World because he got too big. "The kids really miss Bubba, but I told them we'd go visit," says Mr. Himuro's wife, Mitsuyo Teranishi.
In most cases, homeowners hire an aquarist or marine biologist to design, install and stock tanks that can run anywhere from $15,000 to $1 million. Those costs can include everything from $5,000 for lightbulbs to tens of thousands for cabinetry, plumbing, wiring and lighting. The heaviest aquariums require structural support for thousands of pounds of water. And follow-up maintenance typically runs about $1,000 a month, though the price doubles if your tank is so big it takes a scuba diver to clean it.
One of the hardest jobs is keeping exotic fish alive. The popular Moorish Idol, known for its zebra-like markings, has such a fragile metabolism, retailers call them "Blockbuster fish" -- because they can last about as long as a video rental. Furthermore, independent service crews rarely reimburse clients for dead coral or belly-up fish on the theory that nature is fickle, says Jeffrey Turner, owner of Reef Aquaria Design in Coconut Creek, Fla., who also services tanks. (To guard against tank emergencies, he has clients buy a backup generator and a computer alarm that can e-mail technicians if there's trouble).
Inspired by Anemones
Bruce Bunting's trouble came in canine form. After he installed a 6-foot-long tank in his Washington, D.C., study six years ago, Mr. Bunting's collie kept chewing the tubes and wires. Following several power outages and leaks that poured saltwater into his son's bedroom, his wife "got less interested in my hobby." So last summer, Mr. Bunting, a vice president of the World Wildlife Fund, gave away his favorite triggerfish and pulled the plug. "I got tired of being nervous all the time," he says. "But Trig was such a clever little fish."

180-gallon saltwater tank in a Huntington Harbor, Calif., home


As more non-hobbyists mull getting a big tank, aquarium companies have decided to play up new designs and cabinetry as much as the fish inside the tanks. Aquarium Environments in Houston, for example, recently replicated an Amazonian riverbank inside a tank. Mr. Turner offers homeowners the option of tanks encased in ebony, mahogany and sycamore that can cost up to $200,000. There are even artists who will create aquarium sculptures. Richard Bilow in Los Angeles, for example, produces $1,500 glass-blown sculptures that evoke the works of glass artist Dale Chihuly. "Anemones are my inspiration," he says. "So are sea squirts."
After a few visits to the Bahamas, builder Frank McKinney says he had to try adding "aquariums on steroids" in the houses he's building in Palm Beach County, Fla. "I went to Atlantis and saw what was possible," says Mr. McKinney, referring to the Paradise Island resort famous for lagoons filled with bonnethead sharks and stingrays.
Recently, Mr. McKinney equipped a home with a $250,000 aquarium that doubled as a wet bar, and featured a miniature replica of a sunken ship. The $17 million house sold in just over two months. After that, Mr. McKinney created another aquarium wet bar, but added a "Jaws"-worthy mosaic of a shark on the floor where the bartender would likely stand. It sold quickly, too -- for $7 million -- and Mr. McKinney now says he plans to include a mega-aquarium in all his homes. "People love these things," he says.
 
Because high end houses, the people buying them are not going to be the ones taking care of it. They will hire someone to keep it pretty, and only care to have Dori and Nemo in their family room!
 
I just listed my home last week with a 270 gallon freestanding tank I would LOVE to sell with the house!! I am not at all looking forward to moving that thing if the house buyer is not interested in the tank!! Not to mention the wall damage from salt creep and what the rug will look like under and behind the tank if I do have to move it.

My new house is having a In wall 270 so it will be part of the home short of doing some sheet rock work to get it out if someone doesn't want to keep the tank if we had to move.
 
That would be interesting to buy a house that comes equipped with a large reef tank and already established.
 
I wonder what it would do to the value of an average middle of the road home... it makes sense that it would raise the value of a high-end house.
 
I saw this loft for sale awhile ago, the listing site is still up but I'm not sure if it is still on the market or not. It has an in-wall tank between the living room and the bathroom ( :) ), but it seems like somewhat of an awkward position within the larger room.

Photos are in a little Flash app so I can't direct link to them, but you'll see the tank right away in the thumbnails on this page: <a href="http://www.loft165.com/photos.html">http://www.loft165.com/photos.html</a>
 
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