how bad is a blue damsels agressiveness

lilleahseafreak

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i got a blue damsel, its a neon blue with clear fins and a black spot near the back. i have heard that these damsels tend to be less aggresive than other damsels. if so i would like to move the little beauty in my 40 gallon w/my red anthia, hawkfish, clownfish, blue chromis and bicolor blenny.

so whats the verdict folks? leave the blue dude in the 8 gallon or move him to the 40?

i don't need him ripping up any ones fins.
 
By my experience, their aggression is in proportion with the size of the tank---these are fish that like to run, and if feeling cramped, they get desperate. Give him the room---I may be asking for trouble here---but in general they'll pick a spot, hopefully not in conflict with your clown's anemone if any, and defend it. As the last arrived, too, he'll be more polite.
 
I have a yellow tail damsel with a clown, scooter dragonnet and a yellow tang, they all stay in the same corner and they have no problems. with being the last fish in the tank you shouldnt have any problems sint its not there territory.j
 
new question

is there any way that my 2 falco hawks can share the 40 gallon in peace? the 40 is now the onlytank not overstocked, it is understocked as i removed some fish to a newly set up 16 gallon. my 23 gallon is over stocked, the only dude i want to move is the hawk. can he live w/the other hawk, the petstore said no.

if not then i may put him up for sale or trade as i do not want to confine him to the 8 gallon he is in as its way too small. (the damsel in the 8 gallon does NOT like him :p

i think i will put the blue dude in there, but i will wait for a answer on the hawk, if 2 hawks will fight then i guess i will get a goby of some kind

point is i need to be sure i add the damsel last
 
The Falco Hawkfish is the least aggressive of the Hawkfishes and is a durable fish which makes it an excellent choice for new hobbyists. It prefers to spend itââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s time resting on the substrate and low areas instead of rockwork. The Falco Hawkfish should not be kept with smaller nonaggressive fishes like neon gobies, small Anthias, small wrasses etc. Will also likely eat ornamental shrimps, small crabs and other small crustaceans.

they are semi-agressive fish, if you have one that is bigger then the new one it may pick on it.
 
Re: how bad is a blue damsels agressiveness

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7438481#post7438481 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lilleahseafreak
if so i would like to move the little beauty in my 40 gallon w/my red anthia, hawkfish, clownfish, blue chromis and bicolor blenny.

so whats the verdict folks? leave the blue dude in the 8 gallon or move him to the 40?

i don't need him ripping up any ones fins.

With your current fish if you want to keep em there I vote NO on adding
1. another hawk(ill bet money there'll be issues and would only attempt it if you had a fairly large system 100g+)
2. blue damsel

You really dont have that many fish but because you have that anthias in there you really have alot if not too much fish in there. But of course just my opinion.

-Justin
 
I wouldn't risk putting the damsel in the 40. It MAY be ok, but if it's not, good luck getting him out w/o breaking down all your aquascaping. The last damsel I had was in a 40-gal and he staked out the entire tank as his area, keeping a magenta dottyback -- who had previously ruled the roost-- confined to a single hole in the rockwork. Not worth the risk, IMO.
 
one damsel isnt really that aggressive. thats why you look a the store. I had 6 at one time, and they were all fine.

MY clown is more aggressive to my damsel then my damsel. It all depends on the fish. If it is the last thing in the tank added, most of the time there isnt a problem.
 
What's the saying about damsels..."if damsels' were as large as sharks the sharks would run".

Some damsels are extremely aggresive and territorial, and depending upon the species can grow fairly large. I've seen domino damsels in the 6" range.
 
I have been bitten by more then one damsel before (literally, not just figuratively) and I now avoid them completely (except for a little blue that I just can't get out of my tank ââ"šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“ another reason to avoid them). If ever given the choice, I would avoid them again. Just my 2 cents.

-- Josh
 
i think i will risk adding both, i do not like my aquascaping and i am considering changing it anyway. so if either new fish become a bother then i can just take out the rocks, catch the fish, and redo the tank.

all add both of them tommorow, i'll keep you posted on how they do. maybe i will get lucky and my hawks will get along. i have a pair of 6 line wrasses in my 23 gallon who get along perfectly and are always togther (its so cool how they get along, the smaller one follows the bigger one EVERYWHERE :)
 
sounds like fun with the pair of 6-lines, i had a small and larger one in my qt tank holding for some friends, they also were fine together, though they didn't follow one another.. like to see how it goes with the damsel too so following along..
 
darla.jpg


:rolleyes:

-Justin
 
whats with the pic of darla?


anywho, i put the hawks together, they are exactly the same size. they are circling and nipping, but then stop, rest near eachother and repeat, so far they have not hurt eachother as i see no blood or even a torn fin. i will give them an hour to get used to eachother. if they are still doing this by midnight i'll try to catch one of them. i TOTALLY changed the aquascaping last night so hopefully the current residentail hawk has been "upset" from his current territory enough to allow the newcommer.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7447242#post7447242 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lilleahseafreak
whats with the pic of darla?



It's a big hint! hint hint! The only difference is you asked first before you start off with reckless abandon, but you both get amused with fish that clearly dont belong together, let alone putting em in a 40g. Little frustrating watching you get good advice and watch you say "what the hell Im gonna try anyway". If you did any research from reputable sights youd have seen the potential problems with your proposed fish lineup, not to mention most of us confirming the good advice your LFS gave you. Just my 2 cents.

-Justin
 
the hawks have calmed down but are still having a few fits, could be becasue they are getting along or they are just tired. i will keep a close eye on them. at this point they are just waving their tails in eachothers faces and have stopped nipping

as for the damsel he's fine, not bugging any one, if anything he's being bugged, my lonely little blue chromis is following him every where! and the chromis is doing this odd thing where it hides in the large kenya tree i have and wiggles around then when it sees the other damsel it darts after it like a love-sick puppy.

and i new thing has popped up. i added a powerhead yesterday w/a shiny foil sticker and my clownfish keeps hanging out near it...he is looking at his reflection in the sticker!!!
at this point i cannot tell if he is flirting or threatening the "other" clown he sees, but its funny to watch.




and hey, i tried looking up online to see if what the chick at the petstore said was true, i could find NOTHING. i found that they could not be kept w/smaller fish, snails, crabs, shrimp, or small lobsters and may nip at stars but i could not find anything about being kept w/other hawks of the same kind or of a different kind.

yeah, i'm stubborn, i want to try and keep both of them, the only way to do so is to put them together as i have small shrimps in my other tanks now. so i will see if it works out, if not i have a big bin and buckets (and GLOVES now) on hand to take out the rocks and catch the fish.

but hey, when i was little i really was a Darla...
man what horrible things i unknowingly did to fish
ever tried keeping a wild (caught it in a drying up pond) baby salmon w/neon tetras?
lets just say i came in to find myself short 6 neons and a bright red tail hanging outta the salmons mouth!!!!

not to mention my first tank was 10 gallons w/undergravel filtration and no heater and was stocked with: a koi angel, 2 tiger barbs, 2 tbone tetras, 6 neon tetras, a african frog, a skirt tetra and a pleco algae fish, 2 glowlight tetras, 3 apple snails and a painted glass fish....that and my idea of clean the tank was take out the fish and hose out the tank once a week......everything was dead within a month!!!

at least i am not that bad anymore


(looks back and forth suspciously....man....my new nicknames gonna be darla is'nt it.....looks around, slinks under the desk and hides....at least i have glasses instead of the major brace face)
 
looks like its time to break out the buckets, after typing that last post i walked in to see them locked mouth to mouth, and i doubt they were kissing and making up!!!

hopfully some one else considering to put 2 hawks together will find this information in an internet search before doing so as i was totally unable to find any info....my search engine sucks...i think i need to switch to a new internet providor, AOL sucks...

looks around....

yeah, yeah, i know... (puts on helmet and prepares to be pummled by "i told you so's")

"Gerrra " -SNAP- "i'm a per-rana, a creature ofs the AM-a-Zon"
 
Hey Justin,

That sounds familiar. ;-) http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5564075#post5564075

Minh



<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7447435#post7447435 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Justin74
It's a big hint! hint hint! The only difference is you asked first before you start off with reckless abandon, but you both get amused with fish that clearly dont belong together, let alone putting em in a 40g. Little frustrating watching you get good advice and watch you say "what the hell Im gonna try anyway". If you did any research from reputable sights youd have seen the potential problems with your proposed fish lineup, not to mention most of us confirming the good advice your LFS gave you. Just my 2 cents.

-Justin
 
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