how do you mount your frags? epoxy or glue?

kozmo,
let me know if u can mount large frags off overhangs/walls with that glue of yours underwater? :smokin:
i use that glue as well and it does not work as good as the mixture i suggest. trust me once you try it you wont mount any other way.

i guess the saying " you cant teach an old dog new tricks" applies here. :smokin:

just pulling your leg
 
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Wow, I lost several nice purple acro frags to RTN when mounting them with epoxy. I always wondered what happened. These were such nice frags that I wanted them in the perfect spot and probably over-used epoxy to position them perfectly. I didn't realize anyone had had any problems with it before.
 
justletmein

i think more than ever the handling required to mount frags using epoxy is what stresses out the coral the most, subsequently causing it to rtn. i remember using epoxy and having to attempt to mount the piece several times b4 the frag would stay put.
 
Could be. I've been scared of it ever since so I haven't tried again. I'd used epoxy in the past without problems. I may try your method, or the other method of super-glueing to a small rock and then using epoxy on the rock. That epoxy I had never dried either. After a coupld days when I removed the frags it was still pliable and mushy, only a little firmer than it was to begin with. I threw the whole tube away thinking it might have been the epoxy, which was made by Two Little Fishies.
 
Superglue just plain stinks when you have to mount it underwater though. I have had many times when the frag was fairly large and I was trying to get the piece mounted to a flat piece of rock. I would stick it underwater and it looks good, only to have it fall off a week later. The combo that ROAB uses it awesome, by far the best way I have tried to mount frags when doing it completely underwater. I'll try it on more pieces this week. But the first time I did it I was amazed at how well I was able to securely get the frag to stay.
 
Still a little fuzzy.

So, if the superglue attaches the frag to the epoxy, and the superglue on the other side of the epoxy blob attaches the epoxy to the rock, what purpose does the epoxy serve?

Is it just for "gap filling"?
 
Gluing a frag with superglue underwater results in a poor bond. I find that snails frequently still are able to still knock them over, unless you have the thing superglued in that perfect hole in the rock. By using the epoxy the glue is able to bond to the rock much better with the epoxy behind it and the frag is securely attached to the epoxy as well.
 
So if I want to mount some frags to the back of the glass I put epoxy on the glass first? Then put glue on the frag and attatch together?
 
no.

take a piece of epoxy. glue on one end, stick frag into the glue and epoxy. Glue other end of epoxy, stick that against the glass.

Glass|glue|epoxy|glue|frag
 
JB NY:

It sounds like a good idea. I used to use superglue to attach the frag to a small LR, and then use HoldFast (good stuff) to attach the small LR to the place I wanted. However it costs me both the LR rubble and the larger amout of Epoxy.

I have one concern though: If you put the glue in the mouting surface, and later you decide to change the location of the frag (which happens to us all the time), are you able to remove it easily with no mess with all the glue attached to the LR?

Thanks!
yikan
 
you're able to remove the mounted rubble quite easily. a lot of times i just do it by hand or with more stubborn pieces, just use a butter knife to pry it off. it does not not leave much mess as all once everything cures.
 
i have plenty of flow in my tank with a am3k on a closed loop and a mag 18 for return. nothing gets dismounted by the current rather my hands do most of the damage when messing w/ the tank.:D

even with the 6100s, im sure ur frags will stay put.
 
"What sort of epoxy are you using ? is it that green/white stuff in the tube ?"

I use the tube stuff for large frags, and crazy glue for little frags.
 
For very large frags I use the green epoxy. For everything else I use Borden's Super glue gell. It works very well even underwater. My sister in law gets it for me, she works for Bordens/Elmers. I have never seen this brand in a store. I'm sure she gets tired of me asking for more.
 
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