How hard? run a new circuit?

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The title says it.
I want to run a new curcuit for my tank, the quote I got was unreasonable for what I think should be pretty easy.

What size romex?
15A or 20A
How hard, or unwise, to install the breaker myself?

It seems real easy accept for the heat in the attic in Florida in the summer :cool:

Thanks UP
 
Yeah I have a ghetto orange ext cord hidden behind corner molding going to another curcuit.....:) Most people dont notice it BUT I do!
 
I just had the same thing done so my generator could power this circuit in case of another hurricane. I ran the wires myself and had the electrician open the breaker box and connect. Running the wires saved me a lot of money, but having him connect the wires saved my butt. I'm sure I would have electrocuted myself. The price they quoted me was $700.00 to run the wires up the wall and connect. Needless to say they didn't get the job.
 
Now thats a good idea...You never know when your gonna loose power...I'm gonna check into it...Thanks for posting...


I know what you mean with the cord...LOL
 
If you have no experience working in a service panel, I would at least enlist some help. It is not hard, but it does take some basic knowledge and a very informed set of safety precautions. You can certainly get yourself hurt or killed if you make a mistake.

The same goes for terminating the receptacle end of the service. Mistakes can be deadly. Bad connections cause fires and improper wiring can cause shock or electrocution.

I suggest finding an informed friend that can assist you onsite... also pick up a book from the big box stores. Many of us can "tell" you how to do it... but your best bet is to have some hands on help.

As for the circuit size... I would pull at least a single 12/2 20A circuit. If your going through the trouble if DIY, then pull (2) such circuits at the same time.
 
I just installed 2 20 amp circuits in my house for my tank. I've never done any home wiring before but have worked on projects like vintage bikes. I did exactly what Bean said--bought a book on wiring from Lowe's. However, I'm sure you could get some reliable instructions online for free. It was pretty easy for me, since my breaker box is just on the opposite wall where the recepticals needed to go.

The main thing to remember is shut off the power from the street to the house--not just in the breaker box inside. Other than that, it's pretty straight forward, and I think pretty much anyone with some basic common sense could do it. Just make sure all your connections are solid and secure. It took me about an hour from start to finish and probably saved a few hundred bucks doin it myself.
 
The problem is that most people can not shut off the power between the street and the house. The only disconnect available is in the main service panel. While this kills the bus bars under the branch breakers, it leaves the main lugs HOT and deadly to a novice.

Please be safe!
 
It's really easy. You don't even need to cut the power off but I always do. Never know when you drop that tool in there :).

Go up in your attic and run a 20 amp rated wire down the wall and fish it through. Put a box in the wall for your new power outlet. Run the wire through your attic to your breaker entrance hole. I like to use a staple type clip to bind the wire to the studs going across. It keeps the attic clean and avoids tripping over it.

Run the wire down and take off the door and outer panel. At this time, flip the electric off. Look how the rest are done. you will have hopefully another slot available.

Split the wire up and run each type to it's correct spot. You should be able to tell easily by how the previous were done. Nuetrals go in a specific spot and so do the black. And the ground goes to a ground bar in there. Once it is all in place, pop your break on and then flip the power on.

I like to play my new circuit next to an existing one about 16 inches away. The reason is this. Some items you do NOT want on a GFI. I have one pump that is not on a GFI. That way if power goes out and flips the GFI which controls everything, when power comes on, that one pump will run. I do this with an external pump since it is not submerged.

It's really easy and the PITA is running the wire. Chances are, a neighbor will help you connect it since it takes all of 10 minutes tops.
 
1000' of 12/2 was up to about $467 a few weeks ago. This time last year it was $122 It has come back down a bit. Cat53 Riser went from $47 a 1000' to over $150.

Enjoy.
 
if your going to pull a wire you might as well pull a 12/3 and set yourself up for 2-20 amp circuits instead of one.
 
IME always use 12/3. Running wire sucks! I recently ran some 12/2 for a powervent in the bathroom. After all that work I relized if I went with 12/3 I could of had seperate switchs for the light and the vent...Moral of the story. When you DIY always go for overkill. The money you save on having a pro do it will more than save you the extra cost on the materials.

Scott
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7976341#post7976341 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nyvp
if your going to pull a wire you might as well pull a 12/3 and set yourself up for 2-20 amp circuits instead of one.


Heh? Not to be blunt, but you guys don't appear to know much about what your giving advice on. If you pull 12/3 and put two branch circuits on it... they share a neutral. This means that they breakers MUST be tied together in the box with a common handle. This is surely not something you want to do to a fish tank setup... and frankly I wouldn't set any service up like that. It used to be common (required?) in the two kitchen small appliance circuits under the NEC.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7978356#post7978356 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bosborn1
IME always use 12/3. Running wire sucks! I recently ran some 12/2 for a powervent in the bathroom. After all that work I relized if I went with 12/3 I could of had seperate switchs for the light and the vent...Moral of the story. When you DIY always go for overkill. The money you save on having a pro do it will more than save you the extra cost on the materials.

Scott


Thats different than running two branch circuits. You are speaking of a single branch circuit and using the extra conductor as a switched power lead. In that case both the fan and light would be on the same branch circuit. The other use for the 12/3 would be for 2-way or other multi-way switches, and 220V service with neutral and ground.
 
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