How To Rid Cyano And Other Pest Algaes

Here is a pic of my tank and the red algae I have. Can anyone identify this red algae? It is the patch between the two toadstools.

Cliff

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Hi Cliff,
From a distance that looks like cyanobacteria. I guess that cyano can have something of a hairy appearance. Can you get a closerup picture? Your tank is pretty awesome dude. That Bubble coral has an awesome green color!

HTH,
Kevin
 
SAT said:
I have a Hach model PO-19 kit which can detect that low and reads both phosphate and ortho-phosphate. That means it picks up at least some of the organic forms.
Just a correction... "orthophosphate" is the common inorganic form of phosphorus, basically just another name for "phosphate". So the Hach test kit is not effective at measuring organic phosphorus. Sorry if that caused any confusion.
 
Further clarification, as far as I know, any posphate test that doesn't have some sort of acid digestion is not going to measure organic posphates either, so that eliminates any "dip-stick" method. I guess(?) organic posphates would be removed by a skimmer?
 
Bubble algae ?

Bubble algae ?

Since we have so many experts on the algae issue on this thread I was wondering what was the take on bubble algae. What works best to control it?--Tangs? Crabs?...?
It's coming out everywhere in my tank since I added a new piece of LR from another tank. It looks pretty right now but I dread the consequences if I let this go too far.
 
yardboy said:
Further clarification, as far as I know, any posphate test that doesn't have some sort of acid digestion is not going to measure organic posphates either, so that eliminates any "dip-stick" method. I guess(?) organic posphates would be removed by a skimmer?
The Hach model PO-24 kit uses ascorbic acid digestion to read "total phosphate" (ortho-, meta- and organic). I got a quote for $125 on their web site. I've never used it, but I believe it employs the same color wheel mechanism as the PO-19, which works pretty well.

Skimming will remove a good percentage of inorganic phosphate and polar organic forms. Activated carbon will remove both polar and non-polar organics. Spotte reports a study where a high percentage of phosphate was removed by an ordinary air stone. Apparently a lot of the phosphate stuck to the bubbles and was thrown into the air when the bubbles burst. Presumably a skimmer would work even better.
 
Re: Bubble algae ?

Re: Bubble algae ?

Bluecheese said:
Since we have so many experts on the algae issue on this thread I was wondering what was the take on bubble algae. What works best to control it?--Tangs? Crabs?...?
If you search for Valonia you'll find a bunch of threads. Emerald crabs (Mithrax) are commonly recommended and many people have reported success. Note, however, that at least some flavors of Mithrax grow quite large and are not purely herbivorous.
 
I just had a huge outbreak. cyano or algae, bubbles trapped everywhere, on the sand rock and glass. I have had the tank for 6 years and I haven't added anything in a few weeks. Tomorrow I am testing both waters I had put in RO from the lfs and then sea water from the other lfs. I know the sea water had nitrates and phosphates so I switched to the RO. All of a sudden I have bubbles everywhere!!! and lots of brown hair algae on the glass.

I added a bunch of hermits and for one day the problem went away but came back the next in full force. Now the hermits just knock over my corals, their about to find a new home.
 
HAIR ALGAE

HAIR ALGAE

Hi there!!!

I have a 12 gallon reef tank that has a bad algae problem. I wanted to knoe if anyont has a cure for hair algae. it seems that everytime I pull it off of the rocks, it is already grown back the next day. It has been going on forever. Even doing weekly water changes doesn't seem to phase it. And if I low my lighting time it doesn't really make a big difference. Someone please help!!! The Hair Algae is Taking over, Soon it will be all over my apartment and maybe even growing on me!!! I have tried snails, emerald crabs, pgymy angels(which like the corals better than the algae), sally lightfoots. I am out of ideas. SOS!!!

Thank You!!
 
Hey electrinite,

[welcome]

Phosphates and nitrates are the primary "food" molecules for algae. Do you test for these? My guess is that you have elevated phosphates. Do you use RO or other purified water to mix your saltwater with? Growing macroalgae like caulerpa, doing water changes with RO water, and using phosphate and / or nitrate removing products can help keep hair algae out of your tank.

You might want to check out this thread:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=147010

HTH,
Kevin
 
Hi guys ! To my knowledge cyano is not an algea but a bacteria ... thi is what I was told ! I had it everywhere so a guy told me to use EMT tablets like one for 20 gal and in 2 days the thing dissapeared and never came back... that was 6 months ago so for what it,s worth ....
It did not affect other living things in the aquarium
 
You need to change lights too! Diminished spectrum favors cyano. EM tablets work but beware of fixing the symptom and not the cause.
 
Cyano

Cyano

Yes it is a cyano (Red)-bacteria. As an alternative to tablets when I got my outbreak, I just changed the flow in my tank and directed powerjets directly toward the infected areas. Cyano went slowly away without coming back. This was recommended to me by other reefers who do not like to put chemical in their tanks.

:D
 
I am having allot of trouble with it to. Don't know why, lots of water changes trying to get rid of it, I squirt it with a turkey baster and grab what I can with the net. Then withing 3 hours the sand and rocks are covered in it again. Ugly stuff.
 
Pierre-Michel, I'm going to be sending you a PM message soon.

Finding Nemo, you shouldn't blow it with a Turkey baster at all, the fact that you say you grab what you can with the net after squirting it, makes me shudder. What you are doing is actually helping it to spread. It is indeed a bacteria aand it will thrive wherever it lands. Trust me on this that however thorough you think you are with the net, there is a ton of it escaping you and if it lands somewhere else. it will spread there too, and it doesn't take much, only a microscopic amount is enough. The best thing to do is syphon it out. When I had this problem, I used a length or hard tube attached to a longer felxible tube and syphoned it out into a bucket to throw out. Whatever amount you can't reach with the tube to syphon out, leave it be. It will cause less damage just sitting there than if you blew it out and try as much as possible to not disturb whatever you don't syphon out. Try using better foods such as frozn types that have no gel binders in it ( Formula 1 and 2 use gel binders to hold the food together in a cube). This gel contributes to nutrients ONLY beneficial to bad nuisance algae. Also, spill out all the liquid whenever you thaw out your food to feed. Make sure your lights are in order as far as age is concerned, make sure you have adequate flow, is your skimmer a good quality type?
 
I need help!!! I am new to the hobby, and started having algae problems myself. As best I can tell, I have 3 differant kinds of algae. brown algae all of the glass of the tank, bright green algae growing in spots and now a red algae. From what I can tell, I need to do a water change which I will do, cut down on light usage and feed less, but how do I need to go about cleaning the glass without the risk of it getting loose and spreading everywhere else.
 
I've just hung up the phone after to talking to my local aquarium guru about my algae. He swears the answer rests firmly in margarita snails, less food and better circulation. Today is 9/10/03, there will be at least 30 new snails in my tank by tonight and I will post back in one month +/- to let all know if this worked or not. M.
 
Hi Eggfong,

[welcome]

Maybe you should get a second opinion on your situation before you go out and spend a lot of money on snails. I have never had good luck with margarita snails. They slowly just die-off on me. What kind of algae do you have? Do you test your water for nitrates and phosphates? Do you use purified water (like RO) to mix your saltwater with? Just something to think about...

Kevin
 
Too late, snails in place. I have three different algae. I test frequently, each and every value seems to be well within acceptable levels. I don't do changes, really, just once and a while and not that often. The snails are munching down and I have 10 new mithrax crabs ordered. (sp. ?) Anyway, as soon as I can catch the evil Green Leaf Wrasse my crabs and snails should be safe... thanks for the reply. Mark.
 
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