HUGE crack!!! HELP

stingers81

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Hey guys
I woke up today to a flood and a room full of smoke
my tank has a crack from top to bottom of my front glass....when i woke up about 15g have gone on my carpet and almost started a fire from the extension cords

I need help of what I should do next
I put my rock in 30g rubbermaid container and im going to cook them...I always kicked myself in the head for not cooking my rocks in the first place so might as well do it now

I've only set up my aquarium 29 days ago so no livestock in it yet....I was going to go pick up a clean up crew tomorrow

this really sucks!!
by the way....how much are 120g aquariums for in the states???
 
You are doing everything I would do, whay do you want to cook the rock? Is something wrong with it.
Just remember to use water flow and a heater in the tube.
120 Gallon tanks range about $400 with the black trim and $415 with oak. That is just for the tank thru AGA.

You can get better deals, I got a 125 gallon with the stand glas tops and the cheap lighting for $525
 
when i got my rock...I lot of it died and i just put the rock in anyways....it was doing pretty good though...a lot of life was coming back and it started to get a little bit of coralline on some pieces.....I would love to get a new aquarium ASAP but I dont have the funds to get one now so its probably going to be about 3 months so might as well cook the rock and have it all nice and clean when i get a new tank...
Also...an idea popped in my head.....Has anyone ever just replaced the front glass??? If I could do that and for cheap then i can probably get my tank up and running in few weeks....
thanks....
 
Sounds like you are on the right track...

My Biggest concern is - what caused the crack? If it were me, I'd investigate that before trying to upgrade to a more expensive setup.

As for cooking the rock... I guess I need to go back and read this again, because I am just 'not' getting it. I understand the 'how'... just now the 'why'. I started my 125 (which moved to a 157custom, which moved to a 40G breeder) without really having a clue, I followed the LFS's way of doing things and put in a bunch of hermits and Tang, etc. first thing to "remove all the flora"... sure - worked fine. Tank was flora sterile... or so I thought. MONTHS and MONTHS later, I still had strange little macro's coming out of the LR. I've spent the majority of my reefing time adding macro's and things BACK into the tank... Now I buy fresh - preferable uncured - rock and stick it in JUST TO GET NEW AND INTERESTING SPECIES OF MACRO and added flora/fauna diversity... (at least I did before the 40b conversion).

I always kicked myself in the head for not cooking my rocks in the first place

.... I always kicked myself 'for' killing everything off...


JMO/E

Sorry to hear about the crack and flood - never good...
John.
 
what kind of tank was it glass or acrylic?

go glass.....get an all glass bowfront 72g 160$ or 160g 500$

dont cook the rock.

are you just now cycling?

what almost caused the fire exactly the heater or the cords or what?
 
I would say with 15 gallons of water on the floor that sums up were the fire almost came from. salt water and electricity have an agressive attitude twards each other.

Its AGA acrylic doesnt really crack like that.

My guess is glass bow on the breakage. Nothing else is going to cause a crack to go from bottom to top. The tank was designed to hold water so I doubt the pane thickness is an issue.

Was there a center brace? Did you ever measure tank bow? Yes you can just replace that pane of glass, however if one pane broke I wouldnt want that tank any longer. Your lucky the whole tank didn't just explode. How long have you had this tank? Was it new, warranty? Did a rock fall against it in the middle of the night? check with your local reffing club to see if anyone has a tank for sale cheap. Most likely there is and someone knows.
 
I think the crack was caused by pieces of wood that i had between the front and back glass....it was keeping my external powerhead in place...I guess i had it too tight and it cracked the glass...i wish i knew this!!!!

here are some pix

the crack
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crack002.jpg

crack003.jpg


do you think its worth replacing just the front glass? I mean the aquarium is still good....I would love to keep it for 2 more years and then upgrade after that...plus i always wanted to make this tank into a sump in the future...would it be much cheaper that way???
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6709592#post6709592 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NoSchwag
Some people don't want all of that "diversity", some people just want a clean tank.

How did this become a cooking thread?? Anyways, I would definitely make sure the crack wasn't caused by a bad stand or something like that before putting a new tank in the same place. What brand tank was it? Did you buy the stand too? DIY stand? Did the tank manufacturer recommend styro in between the tank and stand? Did you use any? Did you use levels when placing the tank? Were shims required? Just a few thoughts. Really sorry to hear about the crack. Hope things work out.
 
Please tell me this tank breaking thing is not a common problem! What tanks are more likely to break? Glass or Acrylic?

I just have to know....
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6709670#post6709670 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by williams-crist
Please tell me this tank breaking thing is not a common problem! What tanks are more likely to break? Glass or Acrylic?

I just have to know....

It's not common, but let's face it...someone is bound to post about a crack problem (hey, I made a funny:D ) before they post about no crack problem.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6709654#post6709654 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
How did this become a cooking thread??

Well you see 2 previous posters told him not to do it. I was just sticking up for the guy and his decision. :thumbsup:
 
Now it's a rock cooking thread. :lol:

Originally posted by SeanT
The purpose of "cooking" your rocks is to have the bacteria consume all (or as much) organic material and PO4 stored on, and in, the rock as possible.

The first step to this is commitment.
You have to be willing to remove your rock from the tank.
It doesn't have to be all at once, but I feel if you are going to do this do it all. In stages if that is easier but make sure that all of it gets done.

The new environment you are creating for your rock is to take it from an algal driven to a bacterial driven system.
In order to do this, the rock needs to be in total darkness to retard and eventually kill the algae's on the rock and to give the bacteria time to do the job.

So basically you need tubs to hold the rock.

Equipment needed.
1. Dedication.
2. Tubs to cook rock in. And an equal amount of tubs to hold the rock during waterchanges.
3. A few powerheads.
4. Plenty of buckets.
5. A smug feeling of superiority that you are taking it to "the next level."
6. Saltwater, enough made up to follow the instructions below and to replenish your tank after removing rocks.
Here are the steps:

1. Get into your head and accept the fact you will be making lots of salt water if you aren't lucky enough to have access to filtered NSW.
2. Explain to significant other what is going on so they don't flip out. This process can take up to 2 months. Prepare them in advance so he/she can mark it on the calendar and that they won't nag about it until that date arrives.
3. Setup a tub(s) where the rock is to be cooked. Garages are great for this.
4. Make up enough water to fill tub(s) about halfway and around 5-7 buckets about 60% full.
5. Remove all the rock you want to cook at this stage. (The rock can be removed piece by piece until you are done.) I suggest shutting off the circulation beforehand to minimize dust storms.
6. Take the first piece of rock and dunk it, swish it, very, very well in the first bucket. Then do it again in the 2nd bucket, then the third.
7. Place rock in the tub.
8. Repeat steps 6 & 7 to every piece of rock you want to cook at this time. The reason I suggested 5-7 buckets of water will be evident quickly...as the water quickly turns brown.
9. Place powerhead(s) in the tub and plug in. Position at least one powerhead so that it agitates the surface of the water pretty well. This is to keep the water oxygenated. You can use an air pump for additional oxygenation if you wish. Only one powerhead per tub is needed. Remember the powerheads main responsibility is the oxygenation of the water.
10. Cover the tub. Remember, we want TOTAL darkness.
11. Empty out buckets, restart circulation on main tank.
12. Wait.
13. During the first couple of weeks it is recommended to do a swishing and dunking of the rocks twice a week.
What this entails is to make up enough water to fill up those buckets and the tub the rock is in.
First, lay out your empty tub(s) and fill buckets the same as before.
Then, uncover tub with the rock in it. Take a rock and swish it in the tub it's in to knock any easy to get off junk.
Then, swish it thru the 3 buckets again, and place in the empty tub..
Repeat for all your rocks.
Then empty the tub that all the rocks were cooking in, take it outside and rinse it out with a hose.
Place tub back where it was, fill with new saltwater, add rocks and powerheads, and cover.
Wait again until the next water change.
You will be utterly amazed at how much sand, silt, detritus is at the bottom of the tub and every bucket. It is amazing.
At times the stench was so strong I gagged.

How it works:

Some FAQ's.
When re-introducing the rock to my tank, a month or two from now, should I do that in parts to help minimize any cycling effect(s)...if there are any?
I never have. Really after a very short while, the ammonium cycle has been established. That's not what you're worry about though, it's the stored phosphates and that you have to wait it out.
When they are producing very little detritus - you'll know - then I would use them all at once.

Would running Carbon filtration and/or a PO4 reducing media help/hurry/hinder the process?
I wouldn't fool with it. You don't want the detritus to sit there long enough to rot, release water soluble P again. You want to take it out while it's still locked up in that bacterial detritus.

I would say that 85% of my exposed rock had Bryopsis (hair algae) covering it.
There isn't a single visible strand on any rocks my tank now.
Remember, the key is patience. Let this process run its course.

And a few last minute tidbits I remembered.
Your coralline will die back, recede etc.
My thoughts on this are GREAT!
Now my rock is more porous for additional pods, mysids, worms etc.
Coralline will grow back.
Throughout this process the sponges, and pods on my rock have not died off.
Every time I do a water change they are there and plentiful.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6709561#post6709561 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by threeheaddog
what kind of tank was it glass or acrylic?

go glass.....get an all glass bowfront 72g 160$ or 160g 500$

dont cook the rock.

are you just now cycling?

what almost caused the fire exactly the heater or the cords or what?

wow $160 for 72g....thats amazing....I bought this one for $350!!! I guess I got totally ripped off....where can I get one??
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6709670#post6709670 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by williams-crist
Please tell me this tank breaking thing is not a common problem! What tanks are more likely to break? Glass or Acrylic?

I just have to know....

No it's not common. If you make sure your tank is stable and you don't smack it hard with something, it is highly unlikely to break. I've had tanks for 18 years and never had a leak. I even chipped an edge of my glass once with a vacuum cleaner handle and it didn't crack. You might get a leak if a seal is cut/old, but even that is not common. Anything *can* happen, and some poor soul somewhere might have a leaky tank, but most people don't experience this. Don't lose sleep over it. :cool:

I think the crack was caused by pieces of wood that i had between the front and back glass....it was keeping my external powerhead in place...I guess i had it too tight and it cracked the glass...i wish i knew this!!!!

This ^^^ is what caused it, something not normally done.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6709762#post6709762 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stingers81
Thanks noshwag....I was actually just looking for this thread but the search option is full
thanks!

No problem stinger, I'm here for the people.

NoSchwag in 06'
 
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