Hyposalinity - 1.008-1.011?

Salty150

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My understanding of Hyposalinity is that the water should be between 1.008-1.011 - with a preference of 1.009 just to be safe.

Correct?
 
I have always been told you have to be at 1.009 for it to be effective. Below that is not safe for the fish and above that, it's not effective. Don't know true that is.
 
Below 1.009 fish will not survive and above 1.009 ich will survive, which is why Ttm is the best. Because no harsh chemicals and no twice daily monitoring of the salinity!
 
Just needlessly stressing the fish...

;)

I'd be tempted to say Ttm has the Potential to be the least stressful, imagine being a large tang in 55 gallon covered in ich, and either dumped in water which has a really low salt level or has a chemical that will essentially poison you and sometimes forces you to stop eating for 4-8 weeks. Ttm only lasts around 12 days whereas the others have to be 28-72
 
Just needlessly stressing the fish...

;)

What do you think hypo is? How about when you bring them out of hypo? It's all stressful, but so is disease... having a fish within .001 of salinity being so low it kills the fish is stressful my friend. You seem to criticize a lot on here, have you ever treated anything for or with disease? You seem to be anti CP and TTM but pro hypo. Hypo is the most difficult of all disease treatment options to do successfully, and the most stressful on the fish and yourself
 
Actually, there are a few hyposaline resistant strains of ich. TTM is not stressful for fish if done properly, I have been doing it for many years.

+1

I've never understood the argument that TTM is stressful to fish. I've certainly never observed it to be stressful at all in practice.
 
What do you think hypo is? How about when you bring them out of hypo? It's all stressful, but so is disease... having a fish within .001 of salinity being so low it kills the fish is stressful my friend. You seem to criticize a lot on here, have you ever treated anything for or with disease? You seem to be anti CP and TTM but pro hypo. Hypo is the most difficult of all disease treatment options to do successfully, and the most stressful on the fish and yourself

Did you even bother to read the quoted Advanced Aquaria article with all of the cited research?

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I did. Not seeing anything in the stated research showing that TTM is stressful though. What makes you think so? Personally I think I'd prefer to use a QT method that doesn't involve setting up a whole system to balance on a knife's edge.

More than one way to skin a cat, but I'm curious what research you have that shows TTM is unnecessarily stressful to a fish. Or is this just your attempt to stir crap up?
 
I did. Not seeing anything in the stated research showing that TTM is stressful though. What makes you think so? Personally I think I'd prefer to use a QT method that doesn't involve setting up a whole system to balance on a knife's edge.

More than one way to skin a cat, but I'm curious what research you have that shows TTM is unnecessarily stressful to a fish. Or is this just your attempt to stir crap up?

The research shows that hypo is not stressful - but, in fact, extremely helpful... for a number of reasons.

That was the point.

Do you have any research that states that TTM (the repeated catching and moving of the fish from one tank to another every few days) is not stressful?

Or are you just trying to stir up crap?
 
I tend to find that those who answer questions with questions tend to contribute very little in substance to a discussion. With that I'll move along, good luck.
 
I tend to find that those who answer questions with questions tend to contribute very little in substance to a discussion. With that I'll move along, good luck.

I tend to find that those who know they have nothing to add after being called-out - tend to move along...

Good luck.

:fish1:
 
Quoting 20 year old research articles hardly puts the information on the cutting edge, but hey if you are stuck in the past don't let us try to bring you into the 21st century.
 
Quoting 20 year old research articles hardly puts the information on the cutting edge, but hey if you are stuck in the past don't let us try to bring you into the 21st century.

If you have any "21st century" research that contradicts the posted 21st century research (Carneiro &Urbinati, 2001; Lim et. al, 2000; Lowry, 2004; etc...) - please share it with the rest of us...

:D
 
So 1.009 is what you want to answer the original statement. If you don't support ttm and want to do hypo that's your choice. The same as someone who chooses copper or not to quarantine at all. It's your choice!
 

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