Hyposalinity not working

[jarhed]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6842533#post6842533 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by White Tiger
To jarhed:
My opinions are based on veternarians and experience.

You know veterinarians that treat fish?

Your vet and your experience are fine. Keep with it if it's working for you. You still cannot deny scientific fact.

 

[White Tiger]

Sort of.
The veternarian I am talking about is a veternarian. However, he also owns a fish store and he has had 30 years of experience in taking care of fish. So whenever my fish has a disease, I ask him what to do.
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Isn't copper also scientifically proven to treat some parasites?

 

[NeilPearson]

I am not sure what 23ms and 21ms is but hyposalinity needs to be 1.009 specific gravity

Nevermind, I just read your link, that should be fine.

It worked well for me whenever I have done hypo to that level

 

[Psionicdragon]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6844597#post6844597 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by White Tiger
Sort of.
The veternarian I am talking about is a veternarian. However, he also owns a fish store and he has had 30 years of experience in taking care of fish. So whenever my fish has a disease, I ask him what to do.
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Isn't copper also scientifically proven to treat some parasites?

Copper is proven to kill ick; however, it is not recommended as the first line of defense because:

-people overdose it
-people underdose it
-people don't monitor it
-people don't know how to correct use it
-people is the cause of killing fish with copper

So people with experience (long history), usually state not to use it because they see people killing fishs from laziness or lack of education.

 

[Psionicdragon]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6839120#post6839120 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by atlfishes
I'll stick with Hypo. I was just confused as to how long after starting the treatment I'd still see Ich on the fish. I start on Feb 15 and my hippo tang still has it.

Heh, I started 3 days after you.

Ick will still be there until they slowly reduced in number as their tormonts pop. Some fishs will live, some will not. The ones that will not usually are those that are too weak to begin with to survive (like my purple that died). If they die, its not necessarily because you went too low or did not monitor, but that the fish was too sick to really have a fighting chance.

 

[TerryB]

Yes, copper is a proven treatment for Cryptocaryon irritans. However, there are several drawbacks (one advantage) to using copper. It is stressful to the fish, suppresses immune function, toxic and some species do not often survive prolonged exposure. The advantage is that copper is effective against amyloodinium. IMO, Cupramine is far superior to any other copper-based medication. I have used it successfully to treat coper-sensitive species such as puffers, lionfish, mandarins and dwarf angels. I no longer use copper as a first choice since I believe hyposalinity has several advantages. BTW, hippo tangs seem to be about the toughest fish to cure of ich. I suspect that sometimes the white spots that are seen on them are not actually ich.

The last time I checked there were only around 100 veternarians qualified in aquatic medicine nationally. Your friend may be one of the few, but most of them know little about treating fish disease. Of course some of vets do own aquariums.

Terry B

 

[janakaybravo]

If a person suspects that white spot is not ich, after four weeks of hypo it does not change or go away ( one little white spot) would you recommend slowly raising salinity and observing for ich breakout before returning to display?

Any opinions out there?